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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Regardless of anything, I flat-out do not believe anyone who claims that children "thrived" last year. Or more specifically, I believe that they believe it, but I don't trust them as narrators, and I think they have bad judgment. The "thrivers" on these boards seemed totally nuts last year, so much so that I am deeply skeptical of anything they say.[/quote]

And, see, I think the people like you, the ones who were screaming "open the schools whatever the cost" were and are mentally unstable hysterics.  Our kids did great at home.  In fact all the families that I know say the same thing.  Are there families that struggled?  Sure but I think they were probably struggling anyway.  The families I know, with stable and structured home lives, and with parents who prioritized those things, they were fine.  Maybe a few of us were cramped and it was nice when the weather warmed up in the spring but everyone being at home was a nice break.  There was no stress, there was no need to be running hither and thither.  If anything we grew tighter as a family.

If your family didn't do as well, I am sorry.  Perhaps you need to think about what you could have done differently.[/quote]

Yes![/quote]

Umm… is this a serious post? I mean I supported school closures. We were in the middle of a pandemic. The virus was a novel virus that we know nothing about snd the priority here was to save lives. However the cost was great and many kids, especially those from working class families and/or families where the parents could not stay at home suffered. Yeah my kids did great. My husband and I worked from home - kindergartener did school virtually. We pulled our 4 year old out of pre-k. Both kids played with each other. During our breaks my husband and I tutored our 4 year old. She was able to attend a virtual class in the morning to learn the language of my country of origin. We saved a shit ton of money, to the point that we could have a third. So yes it was great for us. But doesn’t mean it was great for the majority of kids. The fact that you don’t seem to care makes me doubt you are even a democrat because democrats care about the economically disadvantaged. Absolutely disgusting.[/quote]

Except you're conveniently ignoring the fact that POC and immigrants did not support opening schools.  At my school we had to require them to send their kids last year otherwise we would have had no one.  As it was we had 2-3 teachers/staff for every 1 student.  We are a Title I school.  Our parents did not support hybrid last year and would this year still prefer distance learning.  Until you actually know what you're talking about, you should stay out of the discussion.  I am feet-on-the-ground.  The "economically disadvantaged" POC and immigrant families did not want what you claim they, in your esteemed opinion, needed.[/quote]

Lol. You are responding to my post. I am an immigrant, and a POC,Arab to be specific. Opinions within the Muslim and Arab community regarding opening schools ranged from those like me who wanted schools closed and those who wanted schools opened. But whatever opinions were on the matter, school closures ultimately harmed children of those who are from disadvantaged social -economic backgrounds. This doesn’t mean that the closures shouldn’t have happened (I believe they should have). It just means that I’m not gonna go around saying that the closures were great and gloat that my kids and my friends kids didn’t struggle. People did struggle and it had a negative effect on educational outcomes. [/quote]

Agree.

-My family did ok. 
-I supported remote learning for the safety of our teachers and community. 
-It really sucked for some people at the time. And hybrid was not workable for some families. 
-And we have significant learning loss across the board, but especially for kids whose families weren’t able to supplement.

The PP above suggesting that families who struggled should “think about what you could have done differently” is completely tone-deaf and a major a-hole. [/quote]

Also, that PP sounds like an idiot, which goes back to the original point that the "thrivers" have bad judgment and should not be trusted. I do not think there is any real debate at this point about how disproportionately harmful the closures were to the most vulnerable student populations. The data documenting the harm is piling up.[/quote]

Arab poster here. Umm no. My kids thrived. Just because PP is tone deaf doesn’t mean you have to accuse the rest of us for bad judgment [/quote]

That poster was agreeing with you.[/quote]

Seems like she/he is saying that anyone who’s kids did well had bad judgment? Either way the data speaks for itself. Look at test scores (and yes they are not the perfect measure). They are down across the board. Kids educational outcomes suffered during the pandemic. The sooner we take this seriously, the sooner we can push to remedy this. However people like the PP I was responding to seem to think that as long as his/her kids and his/her friends kids did fine, then for the majority of kids that weren’t fine, it’s the fault of their families. Does that mean the decision in to close schools was incorrect? I believe at the time, although it’s disgusting that governments prioritized opening bars and restaurants to opening schools. There is so much more to be done to opening schools safely such as improving ventilation but kids are not a priority in this country. And “Democrats” like PP who doesn’t care about other kids because her kids thrived played a role in the government putting kids last because they don’t care to hold the government accountable for educational outcomes and push for safer schools (and I’m against those who wanted schools open with no safety measures what so ever)[/quote]

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