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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here is one difference -- when white UMC parents opt out of diverse, integrated school and move to white enclaves, they exacerbate de facto segregation.

UMC black parents don't. They have many more, and different, considerations when trying to find the best school experience for their kids. It's not clear to me what the best option actually is...[/quote]

???? How about the professional adults in charge of those diverse, integrated schools do some out-of-the-box thinking and [b]make the their school someplace everyone is safe, valued and gets a good education---a[/b]sking UMC parents to stick around in unacceptable conditions in hopes that *they* might fix the school is folly.  There are rational and well-considered reasons other than racism that people leave a dysfunctional school/school system.[/quote]

That's exact what these threads are about. My kids attend one of these schools, a title 1 where kids actually are safe, valued and getting a good education. And i have seen many white parents pull their kids bc of, yes, racism. They can't see the true value of their school bc they are confused by the demographics.

This school now has a prek that is about half white. And guess what? Now the same exact school, with the same teachers and curriculum, is suddenly desirable and people arent talking about moving.

These decisions are absolutely about race and demographics.[/quote]

Is it really the same school, though?  My DC attended a school that people say this about.  The preschool about half white, same teachers and curriculum as it had a few years ago.  That part is true.  But what they don't see is how much change the principal implemented behind the scenes.  The upper grades teachers are mostly *not* the same as before, and there's a reason for that.  DCPS invested a ton of money above the regular funding.  And the principal and AP had several years to change how things are done and hold the staff to a higher standard.  Change really does happen, but a school can gentrify *and* substantively improve at the same time.  And maybe, just maybe, the work that went into that improvement was partially done by the people who were willing to attend the school back when it was way worse, who you're now calling racist.

Also don't forget, there are significant differences in classrooms and in kids.  It's basically random whether your kid ends up in a class with serious behavior issues or a class of mostly easy kids. Title I schools take in new kids every year so it's hard to balance the classes for special needs.  And sometimes there are grade levels that are just known to be more difficult.  In our old school, my DC's cohort was really high needs, and retention suffered, it was way worse than retention in the grade level above it.  Sometimes a school does well with grade-level kids but advanced differentiation is poor.  Sometimes the classroom teachers are good but the SPED team isn't.  Siblings in the same family can go to the same school and have a totally different experience.  I'm not saying there isn't racism, but try to open your mind to the idea that different children have different needs and different experiences at the same school.[/quote]

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