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GA is not as good as ECNL but stop with this silliness of ECNL-R being a top league in any way shape or form. As ECNL and GA both continue to expand it is simply a race to the bottom. [/quote]

I disagree. The mid Atlantic ecnl-r teams would do well in the GAL mid Atlantic. [/quote]

Well arlington was average to above average in GA but you think their 2nd team would do well in Ga? Does not make sense unless you think there is little difference between their teams?[/quote]

No. I think ecnl-r teams would do well in the GAL. Nothing about 2nd teams[/quote]

You people are missing the point of ECNL-r. It doesn’t matter which league has better teams. They serve different purposes. ECNL and GAL are national leagues for players interested in getting maximum college exposure, showcases, etc. ECNL-r players are generally done playing after high school. Just because a player is in ECNL-R doesn’t mean they are inferior. Just that they are not likely to play in college. [/quote]

I’m just saying that the GAL clubs are weak and on the same level as ECNL-R clubs. GAL may be a national league but everyone knows how weak most of the clubs are in GAL. The local ECNL-R clubs are just as good or better than most GAL clubs. Top ECNL-R girls will be recruited at the same level as GAL players. Don’t be naive to thinking this is a pathway to ECNL for FCV, which frankly these days is a glorified CCL club looking for a way to transition to Springfield[/quote]

This is a pathway.  Jealousy is unbecoming. [/quote]

LOL ECNLr is for the second teams. It is not a pathway to anything. You really think ECNL will spend any time or resources pushing ECNLr to colleges?I got a bridge to sell you. ECNL’s path way in ECNL. GA will be better vs ECNLr any day of the week for anyone interested in college. [/quote]

One jealous mom. [/quote]

Seriously, what is there to be jealous of? Making a ECNL clubs B team or some small clubs A team? Are we all supposed to be jealous of ECNL’s B league?

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It’s delicious to troll Soccer Mom A who thinks Dear Child is untouchable and that any league other than the one Dear Child plays is total garbage.  You are insignificant.  I think we’re done here.

BUH-bye!
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As long as you understand that nobody is jealous of ECNL-R. You can beat your chest all you want but coming in here and trying to convince people that ECNL-R is the same as ECNL and somehow superior to other leagues is being ignorant.

It is ECNL’s B team league. That is just fact, it isn’t an insult it is just what ECNL intends it to be. So, it is a mix of ECNL B teams and non-ECNL club A teams. [/quote]
Outside of a few players on each ECNL team, the talent in ECNL-RL is the same. 80% of the kids in ECNL are there because their parents grovel.[/quote]

Ok, so you are a Villarreal parent who's kid didn't make a ECNL squad, presumably because you didn't grovel.

If FCV takes over do you honestly believe that improves your kids chances?

And as far as  ECNL-R players being the same as ECNL I guess you don't know what you don't know. The top 3-4 ECNL-R players could be swapped for the bottom 3-4 players on a ECNL or GA roster. There may be a few kids who are very talented that had no interest in leaving their team to play on a ECNL team but by U15 frankly the talent has been picked clean and that is accounting for a very diluted "Elite" soccer landscape in NOVA.

7 "Elite" teams offering 140 spots  per age group already. The talent drop off is significant after ECNL and GA in our area. ECNL-R will not be any proving ground or pathway into ECNL in our region. [/quote]

Not Villarreal. You could swap the top 4-5 RL for any in the bottom 15-16 (of 20) and there is no difference. Also, reverse it and put one of the bottom 15-16 in an RL game and they wouldn’t change the game and probably wouldn’t even stand out. You don’t know what you don’t know.[/quote]

The highest ranked ECNL-R 07 team in VA is Beach FC.

This was their results from last falls WAGS
11 Oct 20	MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL	          0 - 3	 33.71
10 Oct 20	BALTIMORE ARMOUR ACADEMY GA	  1 - 2	 33.73
10 Oct 20	BALTIMORE CELTIC SC GA	                  0 - 1	 33.61

They scored one goal against a GA team and lost to two GA and one ECNL teams.

They were close to GA but a 3 goal differential against their lone ECNL opponent doe not lead one to believe that the difference is just 3-4 players. And as a top ECNL-R team, while competitive they still lost to mid table GA teams.

You don't know what you don't know.

And Beach FC is significant because they do not have the player pool dilution and are pretty far away to lose their best players to Richmond ECNL. Beach has a pretty large and isolated player pool, unlike NOVA. 
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Yeah, in this area, the difference is 4-5 players. You’ll see when 4-5 players go to play at good college programs and the other 15 are looking at the Randolph Macons and other D-III schools, same as the non-ECNL players. [/quote]

After a 0-3 loss to MD United ECNL you still think the difference between the two teams is 3-4 players?[/quote]

You want an opinion simply based on a score? Have you watched soccer a long time? 3-0 games can be the equivalent of a 7-0 or a game where sides are even or the losing side was better.

Was it 3-0 in the first half and MD United backed off? Did MD United dominate the ball all game and not do enough with their chances? Or were the chances the same and only a couple late goals when losing team pushed forward flatter the score? I've seen teams win and lose 3-0 in games then were the worst team or dominated.

But as a general rule, I'd say that if you could sub your worst 3-4 players with 3-4 players that are your best players then you'd have a pretty good chances of winning a game or being competitive in games you competitive in and lost.[/quote]

Ok, fair enough. Lets shift the conversation back to the actual club at hand then. Villarreal's ECNL-R team. Since we are talking a difference of only 3-4 players between ECNL-R and ECNL rosters then explain Villarreal's 07 ECNL-R loss to VA Revolution by 11-0 in the NPL State Cup?

How do you think Villarreal would fair against NC Courage or Richmond United? Do you think Villareal is just 3-4 players away form ECNL? Do you think ECNL believes Villareal is on the cusp as as club of being granted full ECNL? With U15 team ranked 43rd in VA?
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Sure. I don't know enough about Villarreal's girls program but certainly those numbers do not indicate competitiveness on an ECNL level with a few FCV players. And my understanding - unless someone answers the above question - is that FCV's top team would not be providing players. it would more come from the second teams that are in Fairfax (could be wrong about that).

Question is kind of moot since I don't think Villa is near getting a full ECNL spot any time soon. And even if the FCV relationship is full merger and the level is good enough to compete in ECNL, there's still the whole issue with ECNL and FCV. Touting this as access to ECNL for FCV seems like overreach. Possible there are opportunities for exposure that arise from this, but wouldn't think it would even be issue for the GA team since they get exposure already. This whole relationship seems to serve that second FCV team and bolster Villarreal's base. Too often people on here go to extremes, sadly.[/quote]

And with FCV losing Evergreen after this FCV United teams will either stay in Loudoun or they will likely break up and head to VA Revolution, Loudoun, VSA etc. The GA teams will stay mostly intact if the club ends up practicing in Annandale but some players will likely change clubs in small numbers. FCV will fill those spots with either Villarreal kids or who ever shows up to tryouts. But FCV will stop being a Loudoun based club in very short order. [/quote]

United teams are primarily at Bles. Faulty logic in your assumptions.[/quote]

Not faulty logic, that is the point. They are not moving to Annandale so Villarreal teams will not have FCV players on them. [/quote]

Ok, thanks for setting me straight.  I guess you are right, Villarreal teams won’t have FCV players on them.[/quote]

Not a single player! ;-)[/quote]

No, not a single Loudoun based FCV United player will go to Annandale to play on a Villarreal team. Why would they? [/quote]

Nope. Not a single one.

:roll: [/quote]

So what’s the whole point of this fcv-viva partnership then?[/quote]

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