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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here.

I hardly expected this thread to get the traction that it has, but tis the interwebz. I haven't read through all of the comments and won't. I was expressing my frustration over the social media behavior of certain sect of people. I guess the only thing I'll say is that if you really want to get what you so much desire, trolling and harassing people on neighborhood chat rooms, historical societies and all social media is not the best way to achieve your aims.

Then again, the way this thread has taken off illustrates that I have just wasted my and other people's time since people are so deeply entrenched in their beliefs. There's no discussion. Only screaming.

We are so screwed. [/quote]

Have you bothered reading your own thread? Here's a recap:

OP: Urbanists are vile trolls who berate people for having opinions other than their own!
Everyone else: I'm not sure that's true, do you have any examples?
OP: Here are some Twitter exchanges
Everyone else: That doesn't illustrate any urbanists being vile trolls who berate people for having opinions other than their own
NIMBY: Here's a video that explains why Urbanists are suffering from mass psychosis!
Everyone else: ...
NIMBY: Urbanists are lonely losers who blog from their mom's basement!!
Everyone else: ...
NIMBY: Okay, but no one has ever explained how expensive duplexes can make housing more affordable, it just doesn't make sense!
Everyone else: Well, here are a few hypothetical examples
NIMBY: Urbanists only have hypotheticals, there has to be something more than just "I want to live in Ward 3 but I can't afford to!"
Everyone else: Well, no one ever said that, but here are some academic articles that show that increased density and loosening land use restrictions lower housing prices or slow the increase of housing prices
NIMBY: I think there should be fewer people!

There's one other person having a good-faith disagreement in this thread, and even they support upzoning, they just think Urbanists should be using different policy levers. They're engaging with arguments and having a productive conversation, even if there are still some disagreements.

I do agree with you that there's been some screaming on this thread, but it's only coming from one side, and it isn't the supposed big mean scary urbanists.[/quote]

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