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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Things I have learned from this thread:

- Liberal Arts graduates remain jobless
- Liberal Arts does not include math or sciences
- Liberal Arts students all cheat
- Liberal Arts professors are lazy and don't do their jobs

Glad I got this straight.  Glad I now know that the educational approach that had tremendous successes for thousands of years and gave us virtually all of Western culture is now suddenly worthless.

Thanks for setting me straight, geniuses of DCUM!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education[/quote]

"Genius" trolls of scum, more like it. Or former business majors, currently unemployed, who can post all day. They have absolutely no idea what a classic education comprises. [/quote]

You would've been able to employ some critical thinking skill and writing skill with your reply if you had actually written some of the college papers that were assigned to you when you were obtaining your liberal arts degree instead of regurgitating profanity and non-arguments. [/quote]

Different poster.

[i]Hitchens's razor is an epistemological razor expressed by writer Christopher Hitchens. It says that the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, then the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it.

Hitchens has phrased the razor in writing as "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."[/i][/quote]

"The difference in pay is evident right after graduation. The average college graduate earned $37,000 at the entry-level, the report found. But those with STEM degrees averaged $43,000, while their classmates with arts, humanities, and liberal arts degrees averaged $29,000. Both figures far outpaced the entry-level pay of recent high school graduates, who averaged $22,000 annually.

STEM majors between the ages of 25 to 59 earned a median annual salary of $76,000, while the median salary of those with arts, humanities, or liberal arts degrees was $51,000. Median incomes for teaching or serving degrees—including education, psychology, and social work majors—were lowest, at $46,000. Business majors were in between, at $65,000."

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/financial-advisors/091015/worstpaying-college-majors-america.asp[/quote]

So many facts about joblessness, cheating liberal arts students, and professors who ignore cheating.

Oh, wait, I mean no, there are none of those things.[/quote]

Did you read the posting with the report that showed that when you look 10 years out the salary differences between STEM and liberal arts majors notably converge and that the lifetime return on investment is nearly the same?  STEM is more likely to get you a high-paying job from the get-go, but  your salary, on average, doesn't continue to grow and your technical skillset may become less relevant through promotions.

My advice is to go for a major that suits your strengths  and interests and be proactive about a career plan if you aim for more than a middle class life (not DCUM middle class).  If you go for humanities and social sciences, be sure to acquire some skills that will get you a good first job--perhaps outside your formal schooling, be assertive about internships and proactive in your first job  and be thinking about the skills/graduate education you will need to advance from there.  Liberal arts grads should be thinking about 10 year plans--but keep them flexible to opportunities that arise.  STEM majors can get a job right away, but they should be thinking about what next or they will soon top out and plateau.  All majors--particularly STEM--need to think about threats of automation to their sub-specialty and diversify their skills/experiences.   [/quote]

Did you read the posts and their responses above?

I repeat: No facts about joblessness, cheating liberal arts students, and professors who ignore cheating.
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