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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]God doesn’t send people to hell.[/quote]

But he knows they are going there before they are born, so yes, technically he does.[/quote]

God does not decide who goes to heaven and hell. Each individual person decides whether they receive Jesus and go to heaven or spend eternity in hell. God is constantly pursuing humanity with his love and kindness. ... God provided salvation as a gift through the crucifixion and resurrection of His Son, Jesus Christ.[/quote]

But does god know what they will do before they are born?

By your definition, yes he does.  So there is no free will and he sends them to damnation on purpose.

You can't have it both ways.[/quote]

Free will means God knows what people will chose before they are born; not that he makes the choice for each person before they are born.

God gives us the freedom to make a choice; we aren’t a rock or a tree. Our freedom of choice is never revoked. It is always left up to the individual to make their choices and decisions in their life. Free will also means God cannot demand our love. God seeks our love and affection, but our love and affection for God is left completely up to us to decide upon. We decide. Without this free will and independent decision making process, we would have no personal relationship with God.

So God doesn’t decide if we go to heaven or hell. He doesn’t send us to either place. We decide as agents of our own lives and through the exercise of our free will.

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So by your account:

- He knows what "choices" they will make before they are born
- He knows this will lead to their damnation under rules he created
- He is completely capable of changing the rules or the nature of the person making the damning "choices"
- He allows them to be born anyway and does nothing, ensuring their eternal torment!

Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense!  Such love![/quote]

God doesn’t want to “make” us love Him and “make” us have a personal relationship with Him. We aren’t His robots or hostages.

He doesn’t require perfection from us; he knows we are incapable of that. He doesn’t demand anything but our love and that we accept the gift His Son so graciously has offered us. [/quote]

So God would rather that we choose him and if we don't choose him and his gracious gift of his son, whom he sent here to be crucified for our sins, then we go to hell -- our choice.  but God set up the whole system -- if you believe it.

Lots of children do, because they are taught it by their parents.  But many people reject this at some point as they mature.  Some people don't accept it even as children.[/quote]

Yes. Two sides of the same coin. On the one side, God is absolutely sovereign. On the other side, human beings have free will and are fully responsible for their own actions.

How can God’s sovereignty and human free will be true at the same time? We don’t know. But God does. And we can trust that He’ll explain it to us when we see Him face to face.

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