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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]35 ACT helped my DS get into schools.  [/quote]
Was that this year?
35 ACT didn’t do much for mine this admission season. [/quote]

What colleges were they rejected from?[/quote]
7 ivies, duke, and northwestern.  GPA was way up there and activities also excellent. They're a crapshoot.[/quote]

All "reaches for everyone" colleges.  You realize that other 16,000 students got at 35 or 36, right?  And that is more seats than are available in those 9 colleges?  Add the 20,000 1500+ SAT kids (many overlap I know) then [b]subtract for hooks[/b], and you are talking about AT BEST, 8,000-9,000 seats at those colleges for 30,000 high test scoring kids.  The majority of them get rejected.

What colleges accepted your kid?

This is not a criticism in any way, in fact it is just trying to show the math so people know what they are up against.[/quote]

Why are [b]we[/b] subtracting for "hooks"? Why not just accept the smartest kids?[/quote]

PP here.  "Smartest" is subjective.  But for the purposes of this exchange I will assume your definition of "smartest" (despite the fact I would probably disagree).  "We" are only subtracting for hooks because the colleges have decided what makes the best class for them.  But let's remove them all, anyway.  And then:

- There are about 20,000 ivy slots.  
- There are about 30,000 high schools.  
- The top 3 kids at every one of those means 70,000 kids are getting rejected (and 100% of applicants beyond them of course).  
- That means nearly 3 out of 4 get rejected even with no slots for hooks. 
- Even counting just the valedictorians means 10,000 kids have to attend elsewhere.

It's musical chairs.  There are less seats than players of any qualification.  Despite the simple math, many don't get it, and I do not know why.  Even if every change you wish was made, and the process was streamlined for kids exactly like yours....

[b]...they are still unlikely to get admitted.[/b][/quote]

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