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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As I've said before, there is no better place I've found on the internet to convince me to never get married again. I'll never have a GF [b]that gets away with denying me sex, no matter her perceived good reasons.[/b] [/quote] You think you are entitled to sex. That is very rapey.[/quote] I think I'm entitled to enjoy a fulfilling relationship with a woman that includes sex. If sex isn't at least nearly important to her as it is to me, that will be a problem and she is free to find another man who is a better match. There is nothing rapey about wanting, or even [b]expecting frequent sex [/b]in a relationship. [b]There is force involved.[/b] [/quote] Nice Fruedian typo. Listen. You aren't entitled to any flipping thing to do with women. You aren't entitled to a relationship just for being alive. You aren't entitled to sex and you shouldn't expect sex.[/quote] And FYI coersing someone into sex is assault. It doesn't have to involve force https://www.healthline.com/health/sexual-coercion[/quote] When did I say anything about coercing a woman into sex? This has gone from rape, to slavery, to coercion and all I mentioned was my desire to have a partner who enjoys sex as much as I do. Specifically, a GF, not a wife. If that looks rapey to you, or like coercion, then something is wrong with you, not me.[/quote] You didn't say you wanted to find a partner who enjoys sex. You used the words "entitled to: and "expect" in regards to sex. Those words are disturbing and imply that you have rights over another person's body. You didn't say "I'm very sex-postitve and put a lot of effort into pleasing my partner so I hope we will have a good sexual relationship." [/quote] I think you are nitpicking with this guy who admittedly isn't using progressive language. I think the word entitled is fine, just as I would tell my children they are entitled to be in a relationship with love and respect even though those things have to be given to them by a partner. All that means is you know not to say in a relationship where there is no love, respect, and for most people that includes a healthy sex life. Of course you can't force your partner to give you love, respect or sex, or really anything. I didn't get that he was implying that. I think it's strange how many people don't expect that marriage will come with sex, but perhaps that's the new progressive mindset that marriage isn't a sexual relationship. I admit I am Gen X and we viewed marriage and sex as something you assumed.[/quote] I'm GenX too. I'm not nitpicking. He LITERALLY said "gets away with denying me sex, no matter her perceived good reasons." This is not OK. He's trying to walk it back but this was his first instinct. Do you want someone saying that to your daughter???[/quote]I'm not walking back anything. If a woman wants to deny me sex when I've agreed to a monogamous relationship, temporary situations or real health issues aside, the relationship will end. Hence, she won't get away with it. Put another way, she does not get to make that unilateral decision for me that my sex life is over. She will be free to find a man who is agreeable to a no-sex relationship, or one that renews her desires or...don't really care but we are done. That's easy with a GF, a lot more difficult with a wife and family. I'm so not sorry if that triggers you. [/quote] How dare she try to get away with the crime of denying the VIP??!!![/quote]
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