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Actually, there are several people who have posted criticizing the woman who calls 911 rivolously.  YOU are the person apparently who acts as if that means we keep our heads down and ignore actual emergencies.  And that is such a misrepresentation of what I've said - and what others have said - that has crossed the line from ridiculous to offensive.  It is as much b.s. as if I came on here and characterized you as advocating calling 911 for a hangnail.  Please stop making sh!t up about me and other people on this board.  It adds NOTHING to any thread or debate to argue the way you do.  Your anecdote about your dad is not proof of anything.  It is one story in a world with millions of stories.  It is not, however, indicative of rhetoric skill.

I do own my statements (don't even know where you think you are going with that one), and they are correct.  Little inclined to help?  That's so far out of left field it isn't funny.  I have called 911 for other people - in actual emergencies.  A person phoning 911 about man hitting a dog or a car that appeared to be broken down is wasting our emergency resources.  That should be self-evident.  I am not discouraging people from helping.  I am discouraging them from wasting other people's time and money when there are other ways to help.

And again, the people with the greatest responsibility to your father did nothing.  Direct your anger at them, as they are far more culpable than strangers who might or might not have seen your father, given that you don't even know if they did notice anything strange about him or not.  [/quote]

Lady, you take care of your own anger, and I'll direct mine wherever appropriate. A specific example was given of a woman on the roadside in questionable need of assistance and several posts followed that saying MYOB, it's not an emergency - to that specific incidence, which is very much like my father's. Someone else (not me) pointed out that how do we know she DIDN'T need help, and plenty of people were saying "what, are we supposed to be on high alert and know the difference all the time?" Well, no. The point is, you simply err on the side of CALLING when there is any question, because that is the right thing to do.

How this has to do with the thread, btw, is that this whole thing strikes a HUGE chord for me. Maybe if someone had called earlier, (in fact, probably) my dad would have his hearing back (it's gone, thanks to the brain bleed). Maybe we could understand his slurred speech better. Maybe he would not be on antidepressants and dozens of other pills to help him deal with his life, which is not what it once was. And maybe, if someone had called about Jayna, she would still be alive. We don't really know for sure. But do you REALLY want to try and keep scoring points off of me? Someone failed to call 911, probably because, like the mentality many people are describing on this board, they weren't sure it was a problem, didn't see it as THEIR problem, and probably there were some folks who simply thought calling 911 about "a potentially drunk / crazy man" on the side of the street was not a 911 priority.

There is a huge mountain of difference between calling 911 for a hangnail and calling 911 in some of the questionable scenarios outlined here. Beating a dog is a crime in progress. Others have stated that folks in a smoking overheated car may need help. You never know. 9 out of 10 times, the call might be overkill. But my point is that it is MUCH better to call when in doubt, because you could save someone's life.

So back the fuck off with your "your dad's story" is one in a million stories and your bizarre (and off base) critique of my arguing skills. I didn't share my dad's story to impress some fuckwit like you with my "rhetorical skill." My point, since you're too goddamn stupid to read it, is that the woman calling 911 "frivolously" in your mind would have saved my dad from major problems that nearly cost him his life. What the fuck is wrong with you that you don't get that? And what about that is not relevant to this thread? I'm giving you an example (another way to look at anecdote, and since I don't claim my dad is a population, simply an instance, I don't think you know what anecdotal evidence means anyway) of why it's important to call whenever in question. Please, go away. You are truly, truly terrible and nobody has to make anything up about you to see that. 
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Actually, I am not angry but bemused by the crap you spew.  And I refuse to lower myself to your level by calling you names and cursing at you. Heck, I haven't even had to willfully misrepresent your point of view.

But can you ever respond without making crap up to try to win your point?  The woman didn't say the man was beating his dog.  The connotation of "beating" is far more serious than "hitting."  And even then, the MoCo pamphlet cited earlier clearly says not to call about endangered animals.  Really, each subsequent post in which you become more and more angry and hysterical, indicates that you lack the ability to think logically.  Winning on the merits is far more satisfying than browbeating and name calling in an attempt to shout others into submission.  You should try being a little more dispassionate.  Your blood pressure would thank you.

Again, I am very sorry about your dad.  But also again, the co-workers who did NOTHING are really far more to blame, especially since your father had apparently been behaving oddly all day.  By the end of the day, most of the damage was already done.  The earlier the medical intervention the better, as you  probablyknow.  I do hope he makes a full recovery for your family's sake.

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