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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]+1. As a European, it's really interesting to watch American liberals make this "you are on your own, fend for yourselves" argument when it comes to kids and families during the pandemic, while on the other hand calling for a "we are all in this together" approach when it comes to virus containment. European societies take a much more holistic approach to public health and community solidarity, one that balances the well-being and education of kids and the ability of families to maintain jobs with the need to contain the spread to protect those vulnerable to the virus, and most importantly, keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed. That's why they are STILL keeping schools at least partially open in many places (misleading headlines notwithstanding), and will certainly not keep them closed for the rest of the year.[/quote]

Thank you for this. I am an American but it is disturbing to me how much I hear liberal Americans espousing a view on the pandemic that is so focused on "personal responsibility" which is the same argument conservatives use to deny welfare benefits to single mothers or refuse asylum to immigrants.

The best possible response to a pandemic is communal. I think it can be hard to remember that in the US, where we have such an individualistic culture. Combine it with all the misinformation circulating (yes, I'm talking to you, PP who keeps posting links to a bunch of headlines in tweets to make your argument instead of engaging with what people are actually saying in the thread) and it's a recipe for disaster. If we leave families to just figure all of this out on their own, we will leave behind the vast majority of families.[/quote]

+1...the pandemic has highlighted exactly how alike liberals, which I am one, are to conservatives as much as they would hate to admit it. For one, if someone disagrees with any point they make- out comes the name calling and how you must be a Trump supporter or science- denying republican- or worse...who does this sound like? The same person they despise (I do as well for the record). Second, to the point about science, liberals only want to believe in the science that supports their narrative just as much as republicans. They are entrenched in their believes of school is dangerous, or if someone walks outside massless no matter how few people are around, they must not care about heir neighbors and must want to kill grandma. They refuse to look at the data objectively and it is all or nothing- someone can't have a rational solution that looks at the issues holistically without being accused of the above or tuned out. You can care about the pandemic and stopping the spread, and your neighbors, AND heaven forbid also care about the welfare of children and believe school should be in-person. Also, there have not been teachers dropping like flies who are in-person- mind you in areas with much higher infection rates and with much fewer mitigation efforts. Have some teachers died, sure, just like some children have, some of pretty much any demographic or profession you can think of but the very vast majority of those who have are elderly/have major health issues. This doesn't make it unimportant or that they don't matter- and please read that part again because those of you so entrenched in said believes will only pick apart what you want to hear from my comment versus what I actually said but the fact of the matter is schools in FL, TN, TX- have not had massive numbers of teacher deaths. Almost all the teachers in the news who have died weren't even in in-person school with students. So stop with the you must be a teacher killer if you want children to go to school. No one can say DC schools or the DC infection rates are somehow any worse than FL, TX, TN, you name almost any other state in the United States. Liberals have lost, or maybe never even ever had, the ability to look at an issue rationally and with data that goes against what they believe, take the data that supports their narrative and put it into context, and have a rationale debate about issues. There has been so much anti-science from republicans, I think the anti-science crowd in the democratic party hasn't had their chance to shine until now.[/quote]

It makes me so happy to read this stuff and know I’m not alone in being so incredibly frustrated with my fellow liberals.

Liberals have gone so over the top with schools, masks, vaccines, etc.. they’ve come full circle to be just as anti-science and unreasonable as the climate change deniers.  I don’t get why people are ok with misinformation and fake news if it has a liberal slant. It’s like the people in DC who repeatedly misrepresent the DC mask mandate or the vaccine data (all the misinformed crap on this site about vaccines is heartbreaking). Why is that ok?  How is spreading misinformation about vaccine risks any less dangerous than republicans spreading misinformation about election fraud?

I think liberals need to take a collective breath now that we have a new president and congress and start doing better. [/quote]

Liberal here, and I don't really see this splitting along political lines among people i know personally. I think that may be because at this point liberal/conservative are national level alliances, and people's approach to covid precautions varies so much based on their local and state context. I'm from the northeast, and schools have been open at least part of the year in the 3 states where I lived large parts of my life, and the adults I know think that's really important at the same time as they've canceled holiday plans and vacations, gotten on the phone to get elderly relatives the first possible vaccine appointments, etc. The DC area has started off from a default position of closure and that starts the argument in a different place. It's not about liberal vs conservative. It's about your local baseline.[/quote]

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