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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Ivy League has been around for almost 100 years. The Big Three, a term used for HYP, goes back further. Their prestige takes a long time to build. They don't need US News. US News needs the Ivy League to sell its magazine. MIT and Stanford are also widely respected as elite academic institutions. [b]The rest are just good schools. They don't have the history and the prestige as those 10 schools.[/b][/quote]

Bingo. Strivers are clueless. It's sad when their kids get into one of their two tier schools and then they realize nobody cares, so they desperately trying to hype up how great their kid's tier two is. Unless they're at HYPSM or an Ivy, nobody cares. Nobody is impressed by a NORTHWESTERN or EMORY or CHICAGO resume. They're fine schools but no parent is going to pester you about 'how'd you do it,' you know. People just don't care and none of your hot air and forum posting is going to convince people otherwise.[/quote]

This has pretty much been the case for a very long time.  And so maybe it always will be the case (especially at country clubs in the Northeast...) 
But......in my opinion, it's happening...it's really happening....The Ivy League and even HYP are starting to leak some of their cachet.  Is anyone else sensing this?   I have my theories as to why, but I believe it's happening.   Maybe it won't grow or continue, but in the meantime, schools like Chicago are benefitting.    [/quote]

I don't know about Chicago as it's always had more of an academic prestige, and probably not for Emory (not sure why it's included here), but Northwestern at least has had long ties to the moneyed elite. Lot of old money families, especially from the Midwest and West, have gone through Northwestern. Generations of the Buffetts, for example (yes, as in Warren Buffett's family). Similar story for Duke and at this point, probably even USC.

It's less that the Ivy League is losing its cachet, and perhaps more that people from their cloistered bubbles in the Northeast are wising up to the fact that there are many more schools outside of the Ancient Eight that are just as elite? This isn't a recent development by any means.[/quote]

The only development is that the Ivies (and Stanford) are accepting students from a wider range of backgrounds, so some people who might have expected their kid to at least get into a Penn or Brown are seeing them turned down and now have to expand the pool of "elite universities" to justify the arrogance they are hard-wired to display.  [/quote]

Tired and lazy misconstrual of a century-long development. No new “development” here. And the same “hard-wired arrogance” you’re accusing these non-Ivies of are manifold and significantly more obnoxious at the actual Ivy League.[/quote]

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