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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]LoOk aT tHaT pOsSeSsiOn oMG!!

https://www.fotmob.com/livescores/3411437?status=finished[/quote]

I went to the new stadium before lockdown to see them play Chelsea live, I know Tottenham, and believe me, SYC is no Tottenham, other than the fact that neither is in the elite tier of their respective leagues.  Move and embarrass you and your club no further.[/quote]

So make your case that Tottenham isn't in the "elite tier" of the EPL.

The stats to the contrary: Over the last 11 years, the following clubs are the *only* clubs to finish ahead of Spurs even once:

Chelsea: 8 times
Manchester City: 8 times
Arsenal: 7 times, none in the last 4 
Manchester United: 7 times, less frequently since Fergie retired
Liverpool: 3 times
Leicester: 2 times 
Everton: 1 time

The average league position of these clubs:

Manchester City: 2.27 
Manchester United: 3.55
Chelsea: 3.55
Tottenham: 4.27
Arsenal: 4.27
Liverpool: 5.00 
Leicester: 8.33 (since promotion)

Same test, past *five* years:

Chelsea: 3 times
Manchester City: 3 times
Manchester United: 2 times
Liverpool: 2 times
Leicester: 2 times 
Arsenal: 1 time 
Everton: 0 times

Average league position over the past five years:

Manchester City: 2.2
Tottenham: 3.6
Liverpool: 3.8
Manchester United: 4.4
Chelsea: 4.6
Arsenal: 5.2
Leicester: 7.2 
Everton: 9.2

So in the early 2010s, Spurs would rank roughly fifth behind Chelsea, Arsenal and the Manchester clubs.

In the late 2010s, only Manchester City has a definitive case for being better. Over the last two years, add Liverpool.

By any measure, they're in the top five in the deepest professional league (maybe second-deepest, depending on how you rate Spain) in the world. [/quote]

Don't be ridiculous:

There's only one measure of whether a team is elite or not - it's silverware.  Specifically premier league titles and european chamionships, with a half point thrown in for an FA cup.

Years since Spurs last won an EPL:  infinity (they last won the English first division 60 years ago)
Years since Spurs last won a European Championship:  infinity
Years since Spurs last won an FA cup: 30

They haven't won a thing in the last thirty years.  They're an also ran - behind every single one of the clubs you mentioned and many others.  Losers from start to finish.[/quote]

Just like SYC then.[/quote]

U18 boys literally just won State Cup[/quote]

Yeah but U18s doesn't count.  Because of the split birth year, there are essentially two competitions for the same age group: U18 and U19.  Most clubs play their first team in U19 and their second team in the U18 competition.  So you should only count U15, U16, U17 and U19 state cups.  Sorry - nice try but no cigar.[/quote]

*gets proven wrong*
“Well no that one doesn’t count!  Stop the count!!”[/quote]

Not proven wrong at all.  The poster evaluating Tottenham correctly counted premier league and champions league trophies as more valuable than the FA cup, and other trophies as irrelevant.  This is because not all trophies are equal.  In the state cup - the U18 trophy is an anomaly - it is not (nearly) as competitive as the other age groups for the reason I mentioned.  Therefore - just as no-one in English football ever gave a hoot about the milk cup, nor does anyone care about the U18 state cup.[/quote]

lol okay... CCL literally prioritizes U18 age group over U19 age group.  Want to talk about ECNL teams doing the same?[/quote]

Nonsense.  SYC prioritizes the U18 cup - presumably because they think they stand a chance of winning it, because no-one else enters a team.

Let's compare the two competitions:

1.  Only 12 teams entered as compared to 20 which entered the U19 competition.

2.   Let's examine the top three U18 CCL clubs (which you claim prioritize the U18 competition) per the league table:
-  FC Richmond Magic entered their team in the U19 competition and ignored the U18 competition.
-  Skyline entered their team in the U19 competition and ignored the U18 competition.-
-  Beach FC entered their team in the U19 competition and ignored the U18 competition.

Note that all three of these clubs are ahead of SYC in the league standings.

3.  On the ECNL side
-  Arlington entered its first team in the U19 competition, winning it.  It entered its second team in the U18 competition.
-  McLean entered its first team in the U19 competition, and did not enter the U18 competition.
-  Loudoun entered its second team in both competitions.

pwned[/quote]

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