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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm not in any way defending this coach.  It sounds like he's horrible.  Even so - every club has good coaches and bad coaches.  I wouldn't write a whole club off because of the antics of a single coach - unless you know he would be your DS' coach next year.  Find out who would be coaching your son's team next year at each of the clubs you are considering and watch that coach's teams play.  Make your decision based on that coach - not some other coach.

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I hear what you're saying but --- it was so bad that one has to interpret this coach's behavior as being implicitly sanctioned by the SYC club.  Which tells me that SYC is not a club I would ever consider for my (several) soccer-playing children.  But hey, I guess some parents don't mind, or have weighed that negative against what they see as other positives about the club.  I just know that I could never allow my boys to be subjected to that kind of abusive behavior (while winning handily!) ... and I'm probably one of the toughest parents when it comes to not treating my children with kid gloves.

This wasn't just pointing out mistakes or even demanding perfection -- all of that I support.  My kids' teams have been on the winning side of huge blowouts in other games, and I've seen and appreciated our coach continuing to "coach" the boys from the sidelines, yelling instructions or corrections or challenging the kids to put in more effort.  But man, this was something else; the loud, angry, ugly way that every single thing he had to say to his own team was communicated was disturbing.   I could easily see it turning young players off from the game.  [/quote]

You are either doing a false narrative, or your own projection. Again you have no idea what their environment is like, at the same time you also have no idea what the relationship is like from the coach to players, players to players, coach to parents, players the parents, etc.  but I can do the same exact thing, here we go:

Oh wow my U-littles son just won with SYC but wow the other coach.  He doesn’t care about competitive nature of the game.  Coaching the system too much, not adapting.  I was like “ayyy this isn’t practice papi”.  Seriously crossing them off my list.[/quote]

I have previously complained about other coaches doing ZERO COACHING from the sidelines -- not yelling anything, good or bad, positive or negative, or any instructions to the players.  I don't like that end of the spectrum, either.  I want to see coaching -- including giving instructions and organization and reminders to the players.   I want to see coaches challenging their players to play better (because you can always play better, even when you're winning big) -- I want every game to be a learning opportunity, especially for an 8 year old.  But there's a positive, or even a mildly negative way to do that ... and then there's what I saw from the SYC U9 coach, which was entirely different.  [/quote]

I was AR in a game recently in which I wished I had earplugs because the McLean coach was constantly yelling. About 80% negative, 18% joystick coaching, 2% positive.

I could actually see a creative player getting more timid over the course of the game. It was terrible.

(BTW -- I'm ending my part in the hijacking over Spurs. I've made my point and sufficiently refuted the notion that they're somehow not "elite." No need to continue the conversation while someone tries to excuse a misstatement by wildly moving the goalposts. Go Liverpool.)[/quote]

I was a PP but did not move the goalposts to focus on trophies.  Your analysis showed their recent history before this season still placed them outside the top four, which I would consider outside the elite of the EPL.  You also began this by citing their place atop the standings nine matches into the season as your evidence they are elite.  So let's not get carried away with those who move the goalposts, when you shifted your evidentiary basis from the first nine games of this year to the last eleven years of finishes, which has them remaining outside the top four.  [/quote]

I'm the guy who pointed out that they never won a darn thing in the last three decades.  Elite?  Nobody will  remember this Tottenham team in five years time, let alone thirty, whatever silly metrics this RantingPeepeehead idiot copmes up with.    He's trying to claim Tottenham are more "elite" than Liverpool over the last five years.  What a joke.  This Liverpool team will go down in history as one of the greatest Liverpool teams ever, perhaps even one of the greatest teams the world has ever seen.  It will be remembered and discussed wherever football fans meet for a pint for decades to come.

Tottenham?  Nobody, apart from Tottenham fans will remember this team even existed in five years.[/quote]

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