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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I predict not. I believe the root of the issue is lack of interest, so a lottery, or even an open admissions policy, won't fix that. [/quote]
What you don't understand is that many highly qualified URMs don't want to attend TJ because they think they won't fit in. DD is a straight A student in AAP at a TJ feeder and she refuses to apply to TJ because she thinks she will not fit into the culture (a culture of cheating, racism, few minorities, few girls, etc...). This is sad considering that she loves STEM and wants to be an engineer. [/quote]

[b]Then she will hate engineering school and working as an engineer.[/b]  If she's actually passionate about engineering she won't care.[/quote]

THIS IS THE PROBLEM[/quote]

Engineers tend to have INTJ personality types who obsess about details and have high passion for their work.  The ones that are more extroverted tend to move out of design and into leadership roles.   How would you expand beyond that personality type?  [/quote]

PP - I think I get where you're trying to go, but the logical flow here was

1) She doesn't want to go to TJ because the culture of cheating, racism, few minorities (assume they meant URM), few girls

2) Then she will hate engineering because of the culture of cheating, racism, few minorities, few girls

3) THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM if that's the culture of engineering that you think she'll hate

I don't think personality type was at issue there. But I appreciate your point of INTJs and how they behave. I was one of those when I was at TJ - no longer. I just don't think obsession over details and passion for the work are restricted to racist men who cheat and are white and Asian only.[/quote]

At the risk of sidetracking the discussion slightly, I recently spoke with a long-time engineering professor who lamented what he viewed as a recent shift in engineering: he said that in the past, cheating was very rare in engineering, and that at one moment over the past decade, there was a drastic shift and cheating became very common.  He attributed the change to a recent large influx of people into engineering due to the fact that it's a profitable major.[/quote]

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