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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We can only even have this argument because technology allows for "distance learning". A few decades ago, schools would just have closed, and then they wouldn't have been providing education OR child care. Before now, the child care and education were inseparable because kids had to be in person to do it. [/quote]

Right, and I think that's clouding the discussion. I have an incoming kindergartener who can't read. (We're working on it, he knows some sight words and is getting better at sounding them out, but he isn't a comfortable, fluent, independent reader.) I'm frankly quite skeptical that they ARE separable. I suspect the parents or whoever is doing the childcare will also be doing an equal amount of the education as the teacher, if not more. I suspect kids will not learn as much if they have working parents, which would indicate that education is not something you can deliver at arm's reach. These are just my suspicions. I'd like to be wrong.[/quote]

Then teach your kid to read like the rest of us did.   You still need to supplement at home.  [/quote]

I'm working on it, thanks. My point in mentioning that was that my kid can't even do the first step in DL on his own, which is read the schedule. This is going to take intensive parental involvement. Did you "supplement at home" by leaving your workplace, showing up at your kid's school, finding the right workbook, and turning to the right page for every lesson, every day? Supplementing at home is practicing sounding out words after school and work. This is not the same at all and you're being totally disingenuous.[/quote]

Yes it takes intensive parental involvement but most people do.  Would I do that, absolutely and I did.  My child ended up with SN and I ended up quitting to make sure he got to daily (sometimes multiple times a day therapies) and we did tons of supplementing at home.  My husband took off on days I could not do it and he now does the main part of DL making sure the kids are on, supplementing things like math (beyond me at this point) and much more.  We taught are kids to read and have always supplemented math heavily to keep them on track.  But, the difference between you and us is we are heavily involved parents and our kids needs come first.  Supplementing at home is teaching your kids to read and basic math, not 5 minutes before bed of sounding out words while you tuck them in.  You make it work or you hire someone.[/quote]

Wow, this is mean. I'm sorry you have had to quit your job due to helping with SN stuff. I have an autistic sibling and my mom had to do the same. It was very very intense. I respect it a lot.

However, SN is not the standard situation. Most parents do not stop working to get their kids through elementary school. Most kids do not require one on one attention throughout the standard school day. For instance, my other sibling with ADHD and I with no SN got help from our parents after school when we needed it, which did not constitute 4-6 hours a day at any point, and definitely not in kindergarten. I think if that is your bar for "heavily involved," and you think 5 year olds are behind if they are not independently reading far beyond grade level before kindergarten, then yes, all dual income households have bad parents who don't care about their kids, don't consider their kids' needs to be a priority, and should be pushing their kids much harder. I still think it's unreasonable to expect that ALL parents of school aged children should either quit their jobs or somehow find the money for private household help. If that's the expectation why even have public schools?

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I'm not sorry at all for quitting my job.  I love being home and my child is doing well so it was all worth it. I wouldn't have otherwise and my life is much better for it.  I had no idea how much joy being home would bring me.   Dual income families in your situation can probably afford child care but made life choices to spend their money on houses, cars and other things so there isn't much extra money in the budget now for child care.  We live way under our means so if we had to pay for child care now we could have.  You need to teach your 5 year old to read.  It has nothing to do with working or not, its a basic parenting task.  And, school is no longer free child care.  You've had since March to figure it out.  Public school is to educate but parents also need to be involved and not just hand their kids off to school and let the school deal with it.  Public schools are still educating but from now on that education will be different.  So, now you need to rearrange your lives and figure it out.  One parent may need to stay home or get a more flexible job or hire child care.[/quote]

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