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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I mean, once the monuments are gone, then what? Or are we not thinking beyond that. Just take them down and then reassess how we feel.[/quote] Replace them with statues of actual important people.[/quote] Name some important people.[/quote] How about we let the populations affected by Columbus select the important people.[/quote] You are afraid to name someone because you know you can't find a 100% pure historical character. Stop being a wimp. Name some important people.[/quote] The populations affected by Columbus did select the important people. The winners chose, the losers didn’t. That is life. A good winner will be empathetic to the losers but they still get to choose. This is how history has worked and will always work. It is thru struggle and conflict that progress is achieved. We will see how much blacks win over the next few months and years. I hope enough so that we can stop labeling and discriminating one way or the other and just be humans with equal rights. I hope citizens win over police brutality and that the purpose and culture and leadership of law enforcement is fundamentally altered to focus on protecting and serving all citizens not just those in power or with more money and influence. But, we shall see. The only chance you have is to fight smartly and with a purpose to win (not just random, senseless theft and destruction), hopefully peacefully and legally. Else you will lose again and again. Fight politically. Fight thru written words that make sense and aren’t exclusionary. Fight against all injustice not just injustice against “your” clan or race or religion. Fight for the human race, not just yourself. [/quote] Good soapbox speech to avoid answering the questions and to beat around the bush while you pretend you're saying anything of substance. It's a simple request - give a list of people who deserve a statue. NAME SPECIFIC NAMES. No more soapbox speeches and trying to avoid answering the question. Give names. [/quote] You didn’t really read what I wrote did you? [b]The only “important people” the get statues are those that won.[/b] Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Columbus, etc. that’s why they have statues. Paterno got a statue cuz he won a lot of games, despite turning the other way in regards to Sandusky. Do you understand? MLK has a statue because he was effective by peacefully protesting. He won. In fact he won so much he was shot for it. [/quote] This isn't true and you know it. Think about the *actual* reasons that people erect statues and come back here and have a real dialogue. [/quote]
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