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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you aren't born into wealth and social status, you'll never really be upper class. I say this as someone who went to Phillips Academy Andover for high school and met a lot of kids from that world. My parents could afford to pay full freight, but I quickly realized I would never be part of the world some of those kids occupied, no matter how much money my parents make. That's fine--it doesn't bother me--but it's the reality.

Truly upper class people don't make their money from paychecks. They make their money through dividends. They have trust funds. They have dorms named after their families. Their families have been going to Ivy League schools since the early 1900s. They have legacy at prep schools like Andover, Brearley, and Collegiate.

It's not about vacations, nannies, etc. It's about whether you have generations of participation in the halls of power in this country. 
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If you haven't been born into that world, you will never be truly accepted into it, no matter how much money you make.[/b] [/quote]

But isn’t this the beauty of America? You can make it in one generation and you dgaf who accepts you or not, actually plenty of UC people stand in line to greet truly successful entrepreneurs.

Also, Bezos wasn’t born in that world. Do you think he has any issues fitting in or he even cares?[/quote]

I think having parents who come from a lower social class who rose up is a benefit.  Talking about grit and determination and the things they didn't have growing up helps a child to appreciate his UMC or even UC privilege and gives them a different perspective.  [/quote]

I wasn’t talking about whether that can give someone a different perspective. I was talking about whether you’ll be accepted.

A billionaire entrepreneur might be an exception, but I know for a fact that being considered upper class by those born into it requires more than money and material possessions. It’s not fair, but it’s the truth. [/quote]

Agree but that line starts to blur especially when they co mingle. I’m the pp UMC poster who’s kids do private jets and UC parents. We may make UC money but our main home looks average in a high cost of living area. True you will never be in and be regarded as classy. But when you reach billionaire status you start to be able to meet people that want to meet you. There’s tons of little story lines, like Markle and royalty. She’s never going to be UC but she indeed got to co mingle. That’s just someone in the news, but there’s tons. The line between UC and UMC is the most jarring to reach. MC and UMC is no big deal imo. It’s hard because I grew up UMC knowing parent was UC in another country-and then lost it. So went the social connections of generations. I think if the both spouses are anything less than MC they will always show those habits. [/quote]

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