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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The issue is they could get deported back to a country they don’t know or have any connection to. This gives them safety. What’s your problem with that?[/quote]

So back to OP, your logic is that Madoff family should have kept the money he embezzled?

Kids did not commit the crime, they should keep the billions.

Solid plan.[/quote]

This is an inappropriate comparison.

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Can you clarify?  How is that inappropriate?

In both cases, the parent is breaking the law.  In one case, you feel the kids shouldn't be rewarded.  In the other, you feel the kids should be rewarded.  [/quote]

DP. In both cases I feel like the children should not be punished for the sins of the parents. Not being a millionaire isn't a punishment. Being dropped off in the middle of a country where you know no one and don't speak the language can be a literal death sentence. [/quote]

[b]Oh the drama. As others have pointed out, most of them do speak the language, or enough to easily learn it.[/b] And many of the countries are not as violent or dangerous as they make them out to be. In fact, their countries would benefit from an influx of American-educated young people. We would be doing those countries a service to send them back, in addition to ourselves. [/quote]

This is simply not true. Would you be cool being dropped off in Belarus tomorrow?

It is a crap analogy anyway because it doesn't really accurately get to the heart of the matter. A better analogy would be, what do you do with the children of someone who robbed a bank 30 years ago and acquired generational wealth as a result of that original crime. Their education childhood were funded by that crime. Do you bankrupt them as adults for reaping the benefits of that crime?

The answer is no. Courts would strip the parents of wealth, but they would not ruin those kids' lives. Even though they were clearly given a huge leg up in life because they benefited from the fruits of that crime. But they themselves have done nothing wrong, the benefited in ignorance. Their own assets were not acquired by any illegal actions of their own. [/quote]

Oh boy. Talk about a crap analogy. And what’s wrong with Belarus?[/quote]

There's nothing wrong with Belarus. Except I don't live there and don't speak the language and if dumped off there tomorrow night I would probably end up homeless.

What is wrong with my analogy?[/quote]

In your analogy, the children did not commit a crime. In reality, Dreamers broke the law as children by coming here. And that violation of law continued as adults when they remained here unlawfully, with many seeking to work illegally, etc. Without DACA, they would still be breaking the law. And the consequence of that is removal. [/quote]

Spending stolen money is a crime. Every time their parents gave the analogy kids $50 they were becoming part of the crime. But for all intents and purposes they didn't intellectually engage in the crime, same as DACA kids.[/quote]

Nope, the kids in your example did not commit a crime, unless they knew the money was stolen and spent it. DACA kids broke the law by coming here and then by staying as adults without lawful admission. Immigration law does not differentiate by age, unlawful presence is unlawful presence. [/quote]

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