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That’s all good and fine but you can’t support athletic preferences for this reason and be against any other preference. It’s all or none. [/quote]

Who's the little fascist now?[/quote]

Nothing fascist about it. You simply can’t distinguish between preferring one irrelevant trait over another. You could but then you aren’t being intellectually honest.  I mean you probably don’t have a problem with that because all you are concerned with is preserving your own perceived advantage but it’s oure hypocrisy to say that valuing athletic ability is an acceptable criteria for forming the college community but then saying that because it’s the only thing YOU value that the college has to stop using all others. At the end of the day either the college has the right to form it’s community or it doesn’t. [/quote]

See, the difference I that I don't view athletics as an irrelevant trait (not that my kids benefit from it) in admissions, but I do think race by itself should be.  You may think that race should be a relevant trait   Fine.  Admit it.  Just realize that that makes you a racist by definition.[/quote]

I don’t think any of the preferences are relevant - they should all be eliminated. .  I think favoring only those preferences that apply in 70% of cases to rich white kids is an interesting position to take in the name of fairness and community but you do you.  [/quote]

But you are okay with favoritism when it comes to SAT scores which favors kids that are not necessarily smarter but just good at test prep. [/quote]

Do I favor using the results of an academic test to differentiate between applicants to a university more than whether they are the 1200th best football player in the country for that year . . . . hmmm . . . YES.

Do you really think athletic ability is MORE relevant than SAT scores?[/quote]

The question you posed is why are you okay with a measurement that is racially biased. My question to you, since SAT scores have been proven to be racially biased, why are you okay with a measure that is racially biased. [/quote]

The athletic preference you champion is 70% white.  Are you in favor of a preference that is racially biased and does not even purport to measure academic ability?

SAT scores are part of an overall picture and can be compensated for by other academic measures.  Unlike athletics which lets an unqualified applicant jump the line, SAT scores are part of an application.  You don't have great scores but you have great grades, you still have a shot.  Harvard (or any other school) doesn't just list applicants in order of SAT score and then admit the top 2000.  They do that with athletics.

So between the two, yes, I think SAT scores are more relevant than athletic ability.

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