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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]The model for KIPP is similar to the military.  It’s discipline, structure, rigidity, conformation.[/b]  It’s long school days and focus primarily is academics at the expense/exclusion of sports, extracurriculars, etc...  It’s a model that works well for poor or at risk kids where there is no support, mentors, and most likely instability and chaos at home and in their life in general.

Sure some middle class and UMC kids could use the above model but overwhelmingly, this home environment correlates the most with at risk and poor kids. And KIPPS approach works for these kids who they choose because if the kids don’t follow suit to their requirements, they drop out.

Everyone knows what the above is about as the information is accessible online, on the website, videos, etc...  A few individuals posting here that their experiences is different than above is not going to convince anyone any different.

Most middle class families are not interested in the model above because the kids get what they need at home.

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This is hilarious. There is HUGE variation between KIPP schools - each region is different, and there are significant different between schools within regions. You clearly haven't been in any of the KIPP early childhood or elementary schools in DC. There's nothing rigid about them and the longer school day is precisely why we are able to offer academics, arts, and foreign language to our little ones.

Your criticism might have been true about KIPP DC schools 15 years ago - but it's not true today. [/quote]

Well, almost all DCPS and charter schools offer academics, arts, and foreign language without extending the school day so your point is???

[b] You are crazy if you think most middle class parents want their little ones to be in an extended school day[/b] or chanting as a group (sure it’s like singing some one said - BS).

Why don’t you get back to us when your child is in 5th or 6th grade.[/quote]

A 6.5 hour school day is a by-product of our country's agricultural system. I've never understood why school hours and work hours don't align. If my kid is happy, engaged, and learning, I'd rather have them in school than shuttling them back and forth between school and other activities. I hear it's not your cup of tea but it is definitely ours. And your reasons for not liking KIPP (long days, lines, and chanting) are specious. Done commenting because I guess we are all happy in our schools. It's a waste of time to try to change your mind - and it's crystal clear to me you know precious little about what goes on in my school.[/quote]

If you want to go back in the past and agricultural times, be my guest.  I’ll go with modern day studies that show that [b]young children grow and learn best by unstructured play and not being in a classroom[/b] forced to learning academics all day long.[/quote]

YOUNG children at KIPP are in play based classrooms. Have been for at least 7 years. It's more structured than some I'm sure, but the activities are creative and fun and the kids play plenty. Montessori stays unstructured as the kids get older, but there aren't many educational models that have kids higher than kindergarten in play based classrooms (even Montessori isn't play based at that age! just less structured which doesn't work for everyone). KIPP has play based PK. That's all we're saying. The high school is not play based...but neither is literally any other high school in DC. Neither are other elementary of middle schools in DC. That's not unusual. They really don't chant - I've spent many days in my son's KIPP classrooms and never heard chanting. They do some "repeat after me" stuff, but so did MY class when I was in school 30+ years ago! They sing their multiplication tables, but again that's not creepy or weird, its a memorization technique that works. They also use flashcards...are those also evil in the 3rd/4th grade when kids learn their multiplication facts?

If the last time you were in a KIPP classroom was more than 5 years ago, you have no idea what they're doing now. If you're basing your racist sounding arguments on youtube videos, you have no idea what you're talking about. Stop.
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