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Bing. Bing. Bing.

I see this as moving kids over to the ACT[/quote]

I just read an article that says that the ACT is working on a similar index.  There is no escaping this.[/quote]

Then I think the streaming will happen by college major.   i.e. the diversity/adversity admits will self-sort in college, and I don't think the top-brand colleges will have anything close to a clean brand any more

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Employers will further fetishize the hard majors from the soft stuff to sort things out.[/quote]

the brand was never clean- use to be just for rich white males with connections... unless by "clean" you mean homogeneity w/ no diversity at all?  Look each school only has 2000 spots or so- they can find the smartest of the smart of all groups- don't worry about the brand... I think you mean something else here..[/quote]

actually I meant academic brand - I know until the mid-20th century it was northeast WASPs, and then next few decades opened up (like other institutions in america) to the multi-background races, cultures etc...  but I meant academic brand and that will definitely change now, it will be branding by hard science difficulty of major not by prestige of college, and it will be worse for colored folks because everyone will assume they were "adversity admits" not academic performance admits

although liberal arts colleges may be in the "uplift the masses" business, employers and grad schools will want academic performance signals which is the main thing they need from degree-earning experiences, they will figure management and leadership potential after they hire people, not based on the admissions office 4 years before.

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What about white poor kids, or legacies with low scores compared to their adversity scores?  This will have a much larger effect beyond "colored folks".[/quote]

agree there will be some effect on everyone because the sorting algorithm is new, but it will adversely affect easy-to-discriminate-against populations (such as racial minorities) because the unidentifiable hidden boost (since these will be secret scores) to their admissions will work as a negative stereotype - it's kind of a pay now or pay later effect, and it will create a more widespread universal pay-later burden on URMs or anyone who is easy to identify and write-off as receiving an undeserved admissions boost.

so instead of just the IVY admits who are URMs taking it on the chin as potential diversity admits, it will be all students of color and that will lead to a paradoxical penalty

this system will be really good for poor whites and be detrimental to everyone else

that may be a good or not good thing, it depends on who you are

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I see your point--thanks for clarifying.  I think it is already happening on this thread, lol.  [/quote]

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