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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oxbridge / caltech model is the best.

German model is good as well.

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Caltech is vulnerable to faked test scores.[/quote]

Oxbridge has no legacy preferences.  There's a reason Prince William went to St. Andrews. He would have never gotten in.[/quote]

Prince Charles did go to Cambridge and many believe it was not on merit.

The Oxbridge system is an escalator system.  You have to get into the right preschool to go to the right prep and boarding schools (e.g. Eton and Harrow) to have a much higher chance of going to Oxbridge.  These are private all the way, so extremely expensive.  60% at Oxford went to what would be called private schools in the U.S.  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/oxford-university-cambridge-state-school-socially-inclusive-ethnicity-sunday-times-guide-david-lammy-a8551036.html [/quote]

Prince Charles is 70.  Things have changed in Britain since then, as evidenced by the fact that you see the rich and royal at schools other than Oxbridge. Not to say that the rich don’t have advantages and privileges, but Britain has moved beyond codified legacy preferences.  The US still embraces the inequality.[/quote]

I went to Oxbridge.  At the undergraduate level you can't buy your way in. [/quote]

Me too, as an undergrad. I was part of the escalator system mentioned above, sort of (I didn't go to a private preschool, prep or boarding school but I went to a private girls school from 11-18) and it is true that if you go to those top schools you have a better than average chance of getting into Oxbridge, if that's your goal. Not only are you more likely to achieve the results you need to get an offer, but you will probably get some specific prep for the interviews, which is fundamental. But the school I went to was also academically selective - we had exams to get into it, and everyone was a super high achiever. Around 30% of our class went to Oxbridge (of the remaining 70%, most did not choose to apply). Oxbridge does have a problem of not choosing enough students from disadvantaged backgrounds and not making enough offers to kids from state (public) schools (or getting those kids to accept - I believe more than 60% of offers are to state school kids but several reject because they don't feel they will fit in, which is really sad), but they are working on it. However, i still prefer that system because the only relevant factor is academics. No sports, no legacy, no extra-curriculars. And contrary to what PP said above, they don't have universities full of sad drones. This obsession here with building a class with diverse interests so that you have a tuba player and a ballet dancer and a charity founder.. it's bizarre, takes the focus off academics, and makes admissions into a total gamble for everyone except those who can buy their way in via legacy donations or who are recruited in as a semi-professional sports player. [/quote]

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