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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]William and Mary dropped a few spots to 38.  UVA, prestigious, stayed at 25.  Maryland is somewhere in the 60s.  Chuckle.[/quote]

William and Mary tumbled to 38.  It is now a worse ranked school than Florida.  It (William and Mary)  is in desperate shape—stagnant number of applications, poor resources, and very few male applicants.[/quote]
Poor resources?  I thought it is a public ivy with lots of research opportunities for undergraduates[/quote]

[b]too stressful and kids aren't happy there.[/b] stress is more acceptable when it comes with a top brand name. w&m's brand is commensurate to the stress. [/quote]

Princeton Review ranked then as some of the happiest in the country, actually.  Faculty resources are dismal.[/quote]

Princeton Review (based on actual surveys) not only rated W&M #1 for happiest students, it also ranked #2 for students love their college.  It is #1 in annual giving rate and #3 in retention rate among public universities.  Those wouldn't be typical results for unhappy students and graduates.

W&M does not have a medical school or research hospital, unlike a lot of the schools ranked higher.  Since attracts a lot of the funded research money and counts toward resources, it puts W&M at a disadvantage in ratings.  But these resources typically have very little to do with undergraduate education.  W&M has long been strong in involving undergraduates in faculty-directed research projects that help with admission to medical and graduate school, particularly in science.  NSF has produce reports on the top feeder schools for STEM PHDs, and W&M was ranked behind only Berkeley for national public universities when evaluated on a per capita basis.[/quote]

Sure, absolutely. Of course, Princeton has no med school, research hospital, business school or law school and it’s number 1.[/quote]

You are correct, of course, but Princeton is a special case as anyone can see if they do a bit of math.  It has an endowment of over $24B for only 8,200 students.  At a typical 5% payout, that endowment generates about $1.2B per year.  That is nearly $150K per student per year before tuition, externally funded research, or any other source of funds.  That level of endowment can not only pay full cost for all Princeton students, it could pay to operate three W&Ms.  It could pay full tuition, fees, and board for all UVA students with room left over.     So no, W&M is no Princeton, but that wasn't what was being argued (and notice I said a lot of the schools ranked higher have medical schools, not all).  And in the assessment of USNews, Princeton was number one, so no other school is its equivalent.  [/quote]

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