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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1. Jackie O. 
2. Frances Cleveland 
3. Grace Coolidge

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/galleries/first-lady-portraits
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For as beautiful as Jackie O was, that portrait is pretty awful.  She looks like a ghost.

I would add Ellen Arthur based on the portraits.[/quote]

I've never understood why Jackie is regarded as great beauty.  She was undoubtedly graceful and elegant.  Certainly her style and poise made her very attractive.  But beautiful? Only in the sense that the way she carried herself made her beautiful.  I guess this is the same quality that allows some to see Michelle Obama as beautiful.  I think both women are handsome with qualities that make them very appealing.  But they are both far from being true beauties.  Instead the french term "jolie laide" (translated as "beautiful ugly") comes to mind in both cases.[/quote]

What exactly is a true beauty pp?[/quote]

of course beauty can be defined in many ways, but i was referring to features that have been traditionally thought to represent facial beauty in women - symmetrical features, large eyes, high cheekbones, etc.[/quote]
In other words, white European traditional features. [/quote]

Oh please, exactly what is white or European about symmetry?  There have been studies demonstrating that symmetry and certain facial proportions are regarded as “beautiful” across cultures and ethnicities.  American bias towards white-Europeans beauty standards is real, but PP’s description of beauty doesn’t reflect that.[/quote]

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