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And I have no dog in this fight. I had one DC go through HGC and another who didn't make it, which is fine. I don't need them to lower the standards just so that my DC could've gotten in.
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There is no evidence that anybody is lowering standards.[/quote]
[b]There is no evidence that they [u]didn't[/u] lower the standards, either.[/b]  The test used to take 2 hours. Now it takes 30min. They want to "broaden the definition of giftedness".  Coupled with the fact that their goal is to get more URM in, well... And yes, I know there are smart URM.  My Dc's HGC had several of them. But, stats do show that URM score lower than other groups.  It's not racist to state that. It's a fact.[/quote]

You can't prove a negative, eh?[/quote]
Yes, that's the point. You can prove or disprove it, but you can look at how they have changed the entrance criteria, the recommendations of the METIS report, and mcps's desire to close the "achievement gap", which in and of itself is a good thing, but lowering any standards, HGC entrance or otherwise, is not the way to achieve it, except superficially.  Again, that doesn't help any student.[/quote]

Metis didn't talk about lowering standards. MCPS isn't talking about lowering standards. BoE isn't talking about lowering standards. Nobody is talking about lowering standards except posters on DCUM -- who seem to assume that the only way to increase participation in special programs by kids who are Latino/black/poor is to lower standards.[/quote]

+1 -- why are folks assuming they lowered standards?  [/quote]
Do you honestly think METIS and MCPS will explicitly state that they would be lowering standards?

Look at how the ivy leagues changed their admissions standards when there were too many Jews getting in. Did they say, "we are going to lower our test score standards", or did they say, "we are going to go with a holistic approach."

Now this is the opposite of what's going on in mcps, but you get the meaning. No one is going to outright say that they are lowering standards.  Now, they just say "broaden the definition of giftedness".[/quote]

What is your real problem with this?  You kid didn't get in?  [/quote]
I had one kid get in and one not.  I don't think the one who didn't get in would've gotten in prior to the change, either. The problem is that MCPS is not doing any student a favor by this change. MCPS should keep the standards high for everyone, but especially for the highly gifted. I don't want the caliber of MCPS magnet programs to suffer even if my DC isn't it. [/quote]

I honestly don't think the caliber of MCPS magnet programs is suffering. I think that is a gross exaggeration and I'm not sure what you are basing it on.[/quote]
This is the first year of the change, so you won't see the change immediately, and MCPS will never admit it either.[/quote]

conjecture.  but I supposed you will believe what you want.[/quote]
And I suppose some people just want to ignore the obvious and stick their heads in the sand about what's going on.  That's not helping either.[/quote]

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