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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is at least one poster who keeps starting threads about TJ having no better admissions to college that "elite privates" or other "elite publics," etc., and not being worth it.

The fact is, for many kids who do get in and choose not to attend, or kids who could possibly get in and choose not to apply, it might not be worth it. But thousands of kids each year clearly feel that it is. And you would be very hard pressed to find a parent who knows about TJ academics first hand who doesn't believe that TJ adds value.

Now, is TJ a ticket to an Ivy?  No, of course not.  In 2017, no school in America is a ticket to an Ivy.  If you are only going to TJ to up your chances to get into an Ivy (or UVA, for that matter), just stay at your base school.

if you are looking at college prospects, TJ will significantly increase your chances of getting into WM or a specialized STEM/ top engineering program (including VT engineering).  If that's not what your kid wants, they may actually be better off at a base school that is not so STEM focused.

And TJ will give you kid an amazing education.  The peer group, the integrated classes, the mandatory year long research projects in 9th and 12th, with presentations at TJ Star.  Classes that are taught with the expectation that every kid in the room is in the top 2-3%, rather than being taught so the GE kidwho should not have signed up for AP or honors can understand. Very high academic expectations and tough grading. All the group projects. And again, spending 4 years in a peer group that pushes you to be the best.

Once they get to college-- any college, STEM or SLAC, TJ kids have what they need to succeed.

But no-- the system for getting into UVA or Harvard can't be games by going to TJ. In fact, it can't be gamed at all. Quit trying, and send your kid to the best HS for them. And help them focus on good grades, sure. But also on making the most of the 4 years they have in HS.

Now, if you have a kid who want to go to MIT or Cal Tech(still both a long shot, even from TJ) or a UC, CMU, UCIC, GT, RPI,  VT Engineering, GT, Chicago, Harvey Mudd, UT Austin, etc.-- TJ will give them a significant boost. [/quote]

Sorry, but this is bullsh*t.  There is no evidence of any TJ boost...just the opposite.[/quote]

Seriously?

WM:  33% admit rate            TJ admit rate 74% (142 of 192)
Berkeley.: 16% admit rate.   TJ admit rate: 35% (34 of 97)
Chicago:   8% admit rate.     TJ admit rate: 18% (12 of 67)
GA Tech:    21% admit rate    TJ admit rate: 32% (35 of 111) (the GT admit rate is for OOS. OOS Engineering will be lower). 
Michigan:    24% admit rate       TJ Admit rate: 49% (65 of 132) (The Michigan admit rate is also for OOS.  Engineering will be lower.  It's 24% for all   
                                                                                               students, and does not break down instate vs OOS)
Etc.[/quote]

Seriously dude, you are doing a disservice to TJ.  The TJ information sessions I have attended specifically say that attending TJ is NOT a ticket to a better college...it is probably the opposite.  Incoming TJ students/parents need to be told the truth.  Great school, great students, but the lower half in particular would probably do better college-wise at their base school.

Your claiming that the TJ students with the admits you present would not have been admitted to those same schools had they attended their base school?  That's 180 degrees from the truth.[/quote]

And those numbers are without legacy, URM, athletic hooks and with some Asian anti-hook for most schools.[/quote]

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