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Even so, for me, the problem is still Taylor Swift's Grammy speech, which was entirely under Swift's own control.  Swift said that other people would try to take credit [b]for your fame[/b] and for your work, but if you stay strong you'll show that it's all because of YOU and the people who love you blah blah blah.

If her problem with the lyric was really being called a bitch, she should have made her Grammy speech about rampant misogyny in the music industry or in song lyrics, or about "friends" who stab you in the back, or BETTER YET just say thank you and get off the stage and have her people have her beef out with Kanye in private.  But when she had had a phone call with West where she said she understood that to West it seemed like he made her famous because he didn't know her before he interrupted her, even though she had sold 7 million albums already, it was very wrong and victim-y to complain about him taking credit for her fame when she had told him that she understood his POV and it didn't bother her.

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This this this.  Her grammy speech didn't take issue with the b word, it took issue with "I made famous" part.  She publicly tried to play the victim again with Calvin Harris's song.  She's fake and a phony.  [/quote]

Let's see...Taylor wrote the song and Rihanna performed it but Calvin Harris's name is on that song.  Why is that?

And Kanye takes credit for making "that bitch famous" and then poses her nude likeness in a bed filled with other nude celebrities including Kanye, himself.  Kanye, of course, is covered up but his wife's bare azz is out there and Rihanna is laying there topless....to be gawked at.

Maybe listen to her speech again because I don't know that you are getting what she is saying.  It is not o.k. what he did.[/quote]

Her speech was made months before Kanye's video and why did she suggest hiding her involvement for a song, then later whining about not getting credit?[/quote]

You make good points and I don't know the answer to your questions.  I think I heard that he ticked her off with a dismissive comment that he made and that made her say "Yeah?  Well, I was the one who wrote Calvin's hit song" or something like that.  But the bottom line is it is Calvin's name on that song - not Taylor's name (the one who wrote it) or Rihanna's name (the one who performed it).  Taylor had suggested crediting the writing of the song to a made up writer but Calving somehow wound up taking full credit for it.  I don't know that Calvin ever had Taylor's permission to put his name on the lyrics.

As far as the Famous debacle goes.  At some point Taylor became aware of the lyrics of that song and she probably also became aware that there was a music video made of the song before it was actually released.  She had a problem with Kanye's work and that is why she started to "whine" about it.  But if he had done that to Beyonce or Katy Perry instead, I'll bet they would have "whined" too.  Kanye was over the line.[/quote]

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