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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]... 4. They take a person off the list if they determine there's no longer any "reasonable suspicion" he is involved in terrorist activities.

The Democratic proposal might allow for an additional way to get off the list - by forcing the government to bring its "reasonable suspicion" evidence to a federal judge.[/quote]

[u]And #4 never happens.[/u] There's no upside for any agency ever to take anyone off a list. Look at how much grief the FBI is getting for closing the investigation of the Orlando shooter. Don't you think the bureaucratic response is going to be that investigations never get closed any more?

The step of going before a judge is a long-overdue reform.[/quote]

What do you mean it never happens?  Isn't that exactly what happened with the Orlando shooter ... he was taken off the watch list after the investigation closed?

Obviously in hindsight, they should have investigated him more closely ... or maybe there really just weren't any signs there.  But even if they missed the Orlando shooter, it show that the process of putting a few extra steps between people on the watch lists and guns is a good idea.  The watch list process had identified the Orlando shooter as a potential problem, and if he'd tried to buy a gun while on the watch list, I'd certainly have wanted him blocked until the investigation could be assessed.  If he was dropped from the watch list too soon, that's a different problem with a different solution.[/quote]

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