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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We are thinking about medication but he's a new 4. He can't do any fine motor stuff for long like stickers etc. it's not an exaggeration to say 4 minutes. And that's remarkable more like 1-2. He does ot twice a week. [/quote]

4-5 minutes for any single task is developmentally appropriate. You need to start thinking in those terms (slots of time) to organize your day. I have DS help me with laundry. He puts something on the hanger and is in charge of it hanging up in the closet. That keeps him busy (and focused) for a few minutes while I fold. I get him to run and grab things for me in the house, like my cell phone. He feels like he's being helpful, which is a plus. We take the trash out together. I mean, you get that these are things I involve him in, but basically manage myself? It's just to keep him moving through the hours. We'll drop and do elaborate leg lifts. He counts. I've had him try to hold a plank for as long as he can, which always ends in proud giggles. He organizes the pile of boots and shoes we have by the front door. I mean, there are loads of things besides puzzles. We play quick games of UNO (with all of the fancy cards removed) for our numbers, or I leave him to his Magformers and check in every few minutes. There are YouTube videos that he watches (mostly instructional, but sometimes just Hobby Kids) for a few minutes at a time. All of these activities break up the day. He'd sit through the entire series of Scooby Doo cartoons if I allowed it. But, I use short activities to divert him and give him opportunities for art or play. Four minutes of stickers is great! Try pipe cleaners, crayons, finger paint, gluing cotton balls...I've even dumped change on the table and presented DS with his robot coin thing to keep him occupied and that's a fine motor development activity right there.

You can do this, OP. Just think about keeping activities short and engaging.
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If anything, this illustrates to me how dire the issue is - this is OP here. My younger child, 2, we do thing likes help put away my clothes. My son would simply say, no, I am not going to help you, scream in my face, and if he did help, throw my shirts down the stairs. Would not answer if I asked for him to help find my phone. He also has a speech delay. Change he throws. My purse he flings down the stiairs. He will help me put away the groceries but is bored of it after like a minute and hitting things with the cucumbers. He loves to play wack things so I will chase him and sometimes I simply have to although I try to ignore.  I wish I were just throwing up obstacles, but this is the sad truth. I have little houses to tuck animals in, I have boxes to play pretend with, pretend clothes, endless blocks, books, creative toys. I am trying. Play doh, we can do for 3 minutes. Get out all the toys and build a crazy pile we can do for maybe 5 minutes. If I had my son take out the trash he would run down the street. I am not kidding - I am limited here. I am a pretty careful, thoughtful parent, and I am TRYING - but honestly, this basic stuff isn't working. I do agree that I need to break the day into 5 minute chunks although omg it is endless. We have a tramp, he does not like jumping on it, maybe a minute, tops. Tent, same deal. Also, come on. I am a person too and I am starting to get SO RESENTFUL. Though that is a whole other issue.

What we really need is classes and structure. He has been found not eligible for child find, so no dice, but he is in a three day a week preschool, we do swimming and that's pretty much an ordeal for my husband because it is really a listening class. I have had a simply disastrous time with music and gym, he hits and is disruptive and runs away. Same dice with the park lately although we do keep trying. My daughter is 2 so that makes it hard. I do think I may have to hire a park accomplice.

As I mentioned, the TV thing is new, and started because he got to watch a show if he pooped in the toilet, something that took forever to get done. Trying to take away the reward slowly.

So, bottom line - I think I need some motion ideas that can be done in the house - I am liking the sensory sock, getting it. I like the idea of exercise videos and will try that tomorrow. Any good for kids recs? And other than that, I think classes are the way to go. Today was less awful because he had school and OT so, less time to mill around and go mad. [/quote]

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