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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just one question - why do people on here always single out Blacks for everything? On one hand, you lecture us about doing waht we need to do to improve our communities - including increasing college matriculation. Then as those numbers have increased, we get crap like this. What is this damn obsession with the opportunities that some Blacks are getting?[/quote] The issue is not with Blacks attending colleges. All students wishing to attend colleges should be able to attend. The issue is some groups are discriminated on the basis of race in college admissions. I think you would understand if the situation was reversed and blacks were currently discriminated against on the basis of race in college admissions. You would find that unacceptable for blacks.[/quote] If the situation was reversed would my black child receive the advantages and privileges that white and Asian children receive at every step of the way in the educational process, before and after college admissions?[/quote] If your child is not receiving the "privileges" that white and Asian children have, that lies squarely on YOU. [/quote] You just don't get it. Since kindergarten and continuing to this day my brown skinned kids are assumed to be less intelligent than their white and Asian classmates. My older son entered kindergarten fluently reading chapter books. His teacher didn't realize it until just before the first parent teacher conference at the beginning of November. She tested him until the end of kindergarten benchmarks and didn't go any farther. Meanwhile two Asian classmates were getting special homework and assignments because the teacher assumed they were advanced. When my son got an achievement award for scholarship a white mom turned to me and said, "did they really just call up your son for scholarship?" Another mom overheard her and told her my son was really smart. At a teacher's conference in second grade my son's teacher told my husband I that we really should shoot for getting our son into a 4 year college and not just a community college. WTF? DH and I both graduated from top schools and have graduate degrees. Another teacher commented once to my husband how well my kids spoke English and what a great vocabulary they have. WTF, again? They were born here and so were DH and I. Many of the complements we get about our kids tend to be based on the observer having low expectations to begin with and our kids prove them wrong. I could also go on and on about how my brown skinned DH has been profiled. Others having low academic expectations for our kids is a disadvantage that we see over and over. [/quote] It's not constructive to get in to a contest of which group faces more challenges. Asians face challenges that you are not aware and some were already described in the previous postings. You do acknowledge that Asians face discrimination and challenges just as you or other blacks may face. The difference is that the society is at least aware and tries to address issues facing blacks/Hispanics but issues facing Asians are NOT EVEN discussed because Asians do not have any voice at all. The Asians are invisible (ignored) group and they can get beaten to death just for being Asian or bullied excessively for being Asian etc. and media doesn't even cover these stories and these issues are invisible issues since hardly anyone hears about these incidents. At least Asians still try despite the discrimination and challenges and they are asking what we all want ultimately. Not to be judged on the basis of race. Here is an example: "Growing up, I was known as the Asian kid who was really good at math.” “They asked me why I looked different, why my eyes are the way they are." “People would say that my name was weird.” There are lots of different ways to be Asian. To help make that a little clearer, a 3-minute video called #NotTheSame is showcasing the voices and stories of young Asian-Americans, raising awareness about the diverse backgrounds and unheard struggles of Asian-Americans and Pacific Islanders. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/asian-americans-not-the-same_5672f7a7e4b0648fe3028a8e[/quote]
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