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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The fault in that logic is that a gun can be used for self-defense without resulting in a homicide. But the biased NYT (redundant) chooses to misinterpret the statistics.[/quote]

No...no...no...it ain't about biased and misinterpreted statistics.
A gun is for killing - period.  The argument of self-defense comes in after the fact when somebody is already friggin dead and if he's got a good attorney a guy can pretty much shoot a nun in the back of the head while she's walking down the produce aisle of the supermarket and get off on self-defense.  After the acquittal the case falls under the category of self-defense statistically but the reality is dude shot a nun in the back of the head while she was walking down the produce aisle of the supermarket.  F--- the statistics.    [/quote]

What are you prattling on about?

A gun can also be used as a deterrent. That's the part you're ignoring, and the NYT ignored. All your other words are just useless blather.[/quote]

Except, it isn't much of a deterrent.  For all of our gun ownership and gun carrying populace, crime in the US isn't meaningfully lower nor in any way deterred as compared to any modern industrialized nations that have more gun control in place.

The data shows it's not a deterrent.[/quote]

What data is out there?   I did a google search for "are guns a deterrent"   And all I found was: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent

That article says the CDC says they are a deterrent. But I've also seen the other side argue that they are not a deterrent.  I guess it depends on which data you support.[/quote]

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