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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][url]http://districtmeasured.com/2015/10/07/can-school-lotteries-make-schools-more-diverse/[/url][/quote]

Thanks for posting.  As a data geek, this stuff is supremely interesting.  I think it's key that they use the "at-risk" definition and not FARM.  A family of 4 can earn up to $45,000 a year to qualify for FARM (reduced, not free, at that income level).  That is obviously not a lot of money to live on in DC, but it's a very different world from a family scraping by on $15,000 a year from TANF and other forms of assistance.

Agreed that many of the "hot" charters don't have very high levels of at risk students.  It's obvious from looking at the graph that the average line for charters is well below DCPS- this supports the general thesis that those who truly are the most at-risk are less likely to seek out charters.

But also note the 11 DCPS schools to the far left, all of which have at-risk numbers of 8% or less.  Only one charter would be in that group- Yu Ying, at 4% at-risk.  A school system solely based on a severely segregated residential housing pattern will continue to be severely segregated.[/quote]

Hey data geek, what city are you talking about when you say that "A school system solely based on a severely segregated residential housing pattern will continue to be severely segregated"?

Hint -- please find and share these numbers...

In 2004,
# kids attending DCPS schools:
# kids attending DC charter schools:

In 2014,
# kids attending DCPS schools:
# kids attending DC charter schools:[/quote]

Not the PP you are responding to but segregated public schools go hand in hand with segregated neighborhoods - because public schools tend to be neighborhood schools.

I'd suggest you check the demographic stats on charter schools - most of those are far less segregated than DCPS schools, because they are NOT neighborhood schools.

What's more, there's been a shifting demographic in DC, due to gentrification.  Since people are no longer locked into only having one choice for their public school, that's making neighborhoods less segregated.   And guess what - lo and behold, some of the public schools are gradually becoming less segregated now too.  [/quote]

This article/discussion is only about the sub-population of at risk students, not total demographics. The word segregation in the title line has the potential and possibly the intent to throw off the discussion.[/quote]

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