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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]I know kids can be difficult and some are born more difficult, defiant, stubborn, and rotten and there's not much you can do to alter personality, but what I take objection with is a parent who is weak and does not even give it a decent try to curb the behavior.[/quote]

1.  I fundamentally agree with OP, ok?  however I have ...

2.  A very defiant, stubborn, sour and high IQ child who tests me about 84% more than your 7 year old tests you. He's been like this since infancy.  I guarantee those numbers.  Be that as it may ...

3.  I consistently and firmly keep him in line, even in public, and sometimes I need to be somewhat harsh or even loud.  I'm the mom at the mall, playground, parking lot or birthday party whose voice occasionally rises above a sweet cajoling plea in order to force her kid to behave a certain way.  Sometimes -- brace yourselves -- I'll even grab his arm [i]in PUBLIC[/i].

This does not go over well in our liberal, over-educated, pacifist enclave of the District!

Just posting to let OP and others know that sometimes, it's just out of your hands to some extent.

Simply excuse yourself and take the child into the restroom.  Do not allow others to take it out of your hands.  If you do not provide proper discipline to an out-of-control child, eventually, even in this liberal, over-educated pacifist enclave of the District, somebody will take the unfortunate opportunity to bring your child into control.  Teach them when they are young, so that they may not have the failures of tomorrow.  
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