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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/485585.page

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OP here. Thanks for this. It's disheartening to see that Jeff and others are blinded to the fact that this video is about the entire conversation of abortion, and when you discuss one specific aspect of it, you have to discuss the topic as a whole. It's hard to stay on topic of the video other than to say "it's heavily edited to manipulate the truth" vs. the other side saying "these people are exposing the truth about PP."[/quote]

But there are things to talk about, for instance, if you accept legal abortion as a given (since currently it is), what do you feel are the ethics of donating fetal tissue? Is that problematic in itself? Why?[/quote]

Agreed. If you don't think there's an issue with abortion - then what is the issue with donating fetal tissue?

However, I have a problem with profit making on fetal tissue.  Also, if Planned Parenthood doctors are changing practices so that when they perform abortions, they do it to maximize profit from fetal tissue rather than the mother's health, then that's a problem.  And these are allegations all raised by the video.[/quote]

I think that's actually worth talking about, but I disagree with your premise. The sale price of $30-100 per specimen does not necessarily equate to "making a profit." There are collection, preservation and transportation costs associated with the donation. When someone donates household goods to a charity, someone still has to drive the truck over and load the goods into the truck. Someone still has to process those donations and determine where they are going to go. Someone still creates a list of what types of donations are needed, and who needs them, and when. I watched the video, and to me, it sounded like that is what is being discussed. Those things are being categorized as "making a profit on fetal tissue" and I do not believe that is accurate.

The doctor thought she was having a business meeting with a potential client, so she was describing the business practices associated with the relationship that she believed she was discussing. A business who wanted to begin this relationship would want to know about things like cost and the quality of the specimens they were purchasing. That people find these descriptions gruesome is understandable, but they are clinical descriptions of clinical procedures. I do not view what you're describing as changing practice in order to maximize profit at the expense of the mother's health. It sounds to me like when they know that the fetal materials are going to be preserved, they are careful not to damage them. If the patient does not want to donate the tissue and organs, it is less important where certain instruments are placed during the procedure and the placement does not necessarily damage the mother's health or compromise the procedure. And the bottom line is that the doctor would probably have spoken differently if she knew who she was actually talking to. We all tailor our speech to our audience. I don't speak to my child the same way I speak to my clients, even if I'm explaining what I do at work. [/quote]

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