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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/485585.page

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OP here. Thanks for this. It's disheartening to see that Jeff and others are blinded to the fact that this video is about the entire conversation of abortion, and when you discuss one specific aspect of it, you have to discuss the topic as a whole. It's hard to stay on topic of the video other than to say "it's heavily edited to manipulate the truth" vs. the other side saying "these people are exposing the truth about PP."[/quote]

But there are things to talk about, for instance, if you accept legal abortion as a given (since currently it is), what do you feel are the ethics of donating fetal tissue? Is that problematic in itself? Why?[/quote]

Agreed. If you don't think there's an issue with abortion - then what is the issue with donating fetal tissue?

However, I have a problem with profit making on fetal tissue.  Also, if Planned Parenthood doctors are changing practices so that when they perform abortions, they do it to maximize profit from fetal tissue rather than the mother's health, then that's a problem.  And these are allegations all raised by the video.[/quote]

NP, this sounds like a discussion.  I didn't see the deleted thread, but I can fill in the blanks after reading the thread on the Feedback forum.

As for maximizing mother's health or fetal tissue, is that a real issue?  The recent VA report found no instances of mother's health being affected by abortions, in 2 years.  [/quote]

I just saw this in a CNN article (link http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/15/health/planned-parenthood-undercover-video/)

[quote]Caplan was also concerned about another part of the video where Nucatola talks about doctors doing abortions where ultrasound is used to know where to grab the fetus with forceps.

"We've been very good at getting heart, lung, liver because we know that, I'm not going to crush that part," the doctor says.

Caplan told CNN's Elizabeth Cohen that altering procedures in order to get tissue in the best condition would be a "big no-no."

"In abortion the primary goal is to give the safest abortion possible," he said. "Your sole concern has to be the mother and her health."

He said there's a parallel in patient care: When someone is dying, doctors shouldn't change how they treat the patient in order to harvest good tissue for donation after death.

Doctors should treat the patient as they normally would, and then use whatever is available after death. If a provider is considering how to get the tissue that's in the best shape, "that's a huge conflict of interest. ... If you modify how someone dies, that's unethical." [/quote][/quote]

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