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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh and for maintenance costs, here's an example: on most German cars, when the brakes wear out you can't "turn" the rotors.. You have to replace them. The reason is that they use a softer material that can't be turned, but gives great brake feel. That means a brake job can top $1k. Same with oil changes -- most German cars use long-life oil with variable service intervals, so just the oil on an oil change runs $100+, then there's the filter + labor.

On our Audi, it doesn't go in for scheduled service often, but when it does, I know I'll be paying $500-1k each time. I've owned 5 Audis, all A4s, and none of them have broken while out driving, but I take it in for service as prescribed.[/quote]

Personal anecdotes doesn't help anyone. This is why I stayed away from sharing mine. Look at the bigger dependability studies - Audi ranks higher in dependability than both Infinity and BMW, but below Mercedes. So your good experience with Audi reliability isn't pure luck. To a larger extent, we are all just splitting hairs, a modern car is going to be fairly reliable unless you buy something esoteric.

Regarding rotors: they do not need turning on a BMW or Mercedes or any other vehicle for that matter. Turning the rotors is an additional service that the shops try to sell because it's not covered under warranty and something else they can add to a brake job.  New pads will quickly bed down to match the existing grooves in a rotor. Turning rotors artificially reduce their thickness, and make them more prone to warping. There is nothing "soft" about the rotors on a BMW, Mercedes or Audi, they simply do not recommend turning them because it's a bad practice. If the rotors are badly grooved, warped, or worn down to the minimum thickness, they should be replaced, simple as that.

Regarding oil changes: most German cars use euro-spec synthetic oil that lasts 10k miles or 1 year, whichever comes first. My wife's C300 has an 7.5-quart oil capacity, needing 1 and 1/2 jugs of Mobile 1 from Walmart for about $38. The genuine Mann filter is $12 shipped from Amazon.com.  If I wanted to get the oil change done by the dealer, it's $99 for the whole thing, parts plus labor. $99 per year versus, what $20-$30 a year? Is that really a big difference? [/quote]

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