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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP:  I think this is where language fails us, as a species. The ability to provide symbols for thoughts is an amazing evolutionary function, but I think it's nearly impossible (at least I've yet to find a way) to express and articulate the word it is you're looking for.

I call myself an atheist, because I've come to the conclusion that to say that is important from a social perspective and that religion as most of humanity has defined it, is too narrow and dogmatic, if not dangerous way to try and describe what it is I think you're getting at.

I've come to peace with the fact that this, thing, this that I know, has no name. It can't be out into that form.  It is at times entirely evident, and equally indefinable.  And that's ok. You don't have to call it anything. You don't have to call it a belief. You don't have to give it a name. [/quote]

I think language is perfectly fine. It is a tool of communication. Humans are great at coming up with new words to describe new concepts and meanings. There is nothing about English or any other language that prevents a new word, phrase, or description to be created to describe something.

I also think you give religion too much credit for being an effort to define the undefinable. Religion serves very basic human needs and emotions: organization, interaction, unity, moral/legal code, etc. Religion is a social construct that arose naturally. The effort to define the undefinable is just the elaborate magic trick that keeps the believers showing up and prevents them from questioning the leadership of the church.

Call it a sense of awe, wonderment, spirituality, transcendence, whatever. If it is evident, you can give it a name. [/quote]

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