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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think most are being a bit harsh on the OP who possibly was curious to see if anyone heard. It is hardly unnatural to ask and it doesn't'; sound like was doing it to "gossip" but out of curiously, I find nothing wrong with it. Incidentally I have not heard of it, surely does not mean it did not happen

Always tragic to think of anyone feeling that life is not worth living that that is their only option. Having known a few kids who have battled mental illness to differing degrees, once it takes hold it is very difficult to overcome and battle. I do think the stigma is slowly being lifted, but there is much work to be done, just look at the reaction by some here.

[b]If someone was asking did you hear of the kid from X Univ who died of cancer[/b],, it would not prompt that reaction. People need to chill out and start trying to understand why this happens and not be afraid to have the conversation.[/quote]

I've had cancer and you wouldn't believe the number of people who quizzed me on risk factors in order to figure out why I got it and they are safe. "Do you have a family history? Did you smoke? Were you obese? on and on. People may not do it with a young person because they don't assume these factors, or any factors, contribute but that is not the same with suicide. So a student with cancer is just not a good analogy.

Plus I've never seen a post "a cancer death at [wherever].[b] Precisely because people aren't as intent on figuring out why, so they can feel safe.[/quote][/b]

Well clearly you cannot compare the speculation factor on something as mysterious as suicide over for the most part [b]a predetermined propensity to developing a cancer cell.[/b] Just by its very nature, suicide will ALWAYS evoke immense speculation and why's. OP was asking a simple question if anyone had heard and this is what communities do, they talk about (hopefully in a sensitive fashion). The more it is talked about and tried to be understood hopefully the stigma is start to be unveiled.

It is my opinion that mental illness needs to be seen as any other illness is- no fault of the person who has it.[/quote]

While I agree with your conclusion that mental illness needs to be seen as any other type of illness, and not to digress, but this is an absolutely false view of cancer. While there are hereditary cancers, they are a very small proportion of cancers. The vast majority of cancers are not "predetermined." The precise "causes" are generally unknown. And its this idea that there is some kind of predetermined factor that leads people to quiz cancer patients to find out what "it" is so they can determine they are safe. You are not safe.

[b]Suicide should have a stigma, not that survivors and family members should feel shame, but we need to keep it from being normalized. It is that normalization that leads to additional suicides.
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Let's talk about mental illness. As someone who has had it and has close family members who have also been affected, I am all for that. Unfortunately people only want to talk about it when ti seems so dramatic. This is about looky-loo's, not a conversation.[/quote]

Oh please do not make such an ignorant statement!! Only when these stigmas are removed do people start feeling like its OK to seek the help they need hopefully well before they would even feel compelled to contemplate suicide. But right now mental illness is seen as such a discuss behind the curtain kind of subject that people are ashamed and frankly scared to come out with admitting they are suffering. The stigma needs to be removed to allow for those who need the help to feel as comfortable as someone who has any other illness to seek proper help. Could not disagree (respectfully) more![/quote]

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