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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]9:12, do you believe he would punish in the afterlife those who don't achieve fellowship with him on earth?

Muslima, if I could know there was a god and that his purpose in creating us was to have someone to worship him, I couldnt worship such a god. [/quote]

not 9:12. There is a lot of obsession with what happens in the after life, punishment, damnation, etc. from the atheist crowd. Are you really trying to understand?[/quote]

9:12 here, and +1 to this comment. THE AFTERLIFE does seem to be the great atheist loophole. But to answer the question, "do I believe he would punish in the afterlife those who don't achieve fellowship with him on earth," go ahead and point to my nit-picking again, but I'm going to challenge your choice of words. I would not use the word "punish." If my child touches a hot stove after I have repeatedly told him, over and over again, to stay away from it... and lo and behold he burns his finger... is that a "punishment?" Am I inflicting it?[/quote]

not the bast analogy -- in your case there is an object - hot stove -- that will hurt anyone  who touches it.  The mother is trying to teach the child and help it avoid pain.

A better analogy would be a mother telling a child "If you touch the stove (hot or otherwise, or anything else the mother chooses) I'm going to beat you up."

This does not protect the child from anything but the mother's wrath and only teaches the child that it better do what Mom says to avoid her cruelty. [/quote]

Sorry, but I don't think that works at all. Yes, the object (hot stove) will hurt anyone that chooses to touch it. In the case of Christianity, an objective choice (turning away from God, denying God, etc. however you want to term it) will also hurt anyone that chooses to that action. [/quote]

In other  words, you're giving up on the hot stove analogy because it didn't work out as intended, and instead making a special case for Christianity. [/quote]

Huh?  I am continuing the hot stove analogy![/quote]

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