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[quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is it something you have or don't have? If it's just something you have, why would God reward that instead of rewarding people who are good to each other?

I find it hard to believe that an infinitely advanced being judged people based on whether or not you happen to believe in him/her/it. [/quote]

An infinitely advanced being is not exactly a definition of the god of the Bible that so many people believe in in some way.   That God emerged thousands of years ago and was written about by pre-scientific people.  Modern scholars have tried to bring him into the modern age, but it's hard when you're dealing with an antiquated book or stories and rules[/quote]

I'm just saying that if[b] there is a god, I can't see him hanging one's afterlife on whether you had faith while alive[/b]. [/quote]

What do you think His purpose is, then?[/quote]

OP here. Whatever his purpose, it would be terrible and petty if he created us in order to be adored by us. [/quote]

Why do you say that? If you believe there is a God, then He could very well have created us for any purpose that He chose....[/quote]

Yes, and it would be petty if a supreme being, capable of creating a world would create people in his image (if you believe that) to adore him.[/quote]

Then you could never be a Muslim. God says: "We did not create the jinn and men [b]except[/b] to worship us" (Adh-Dhariyyat 51: 56). It is our belief that God created us to worship Him, because we [b]need[/b] to worship Him. It is something He has given us as a means of benefiting ourselves. We are the ones who benefit from it. So relative to God, we were created in a means or a way in which God has chosen to manifest His attributes of creation, mercy, grace etc and He could have chosen another one. But relative to us as human beings, we know that our purpose is to worship God only. God does NOT need our worship, God didn’t need to create. When He created us to worship Him, He didn’t create us, out of a need for our worship, because God has no needs. In a famous divine Hadith God says:

"If all of you, jinn and mankind, were to worship like the most righteous amongst you, it would not increase the dominion of Allah in any way, shape or form...."

Therefore when we look for the purpose of worship, we have to look into man. God created us to worship Him, because we need to worship Him. It is something He has given us as a means of benefiting ourselves. We are the ones who benefit from it. Worship has been established, fundamentally for the growth, the spiritual growth of man. This growth takes place through the remembrance of God.

Almighty Allah says what means:

"Allah is He besides Whom there is no god, the Ever-Living, the Self-Subsisting by Whom all subsist; slumber does not overtake Him nor sleep; whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His; who is he that can intercede with Him but by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they cannot comprehend anything out of His knowledge except what He pleases, His knowledge extends over the heavens and the earth, and the preservation of them both tires Him not, and He is the Most High, the Great." Al-Baqarah 2:255[/quote]

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