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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is such an interesting subject, because I don't believe there needed to be an apology, except to explain what was meant. There are indeed areas that could be considered 'no go zones', i.e. places that are primarily X or Y and if you are Z, it's bad news to go there. Cabrini Green would be an excellent example. There are indeed primarily radicalized areas where you would not want to go. It's like the term "Death Panels". If the government, an insurance company, whatever decides they will not pay for a treatment, and you can't afford it, indeed that's a death panel. When Emanuel talks of withholding care for the aging after a certain point, he is talking about a death panel. You might not like the terms being used, but it's always best to look beyond those terms and see if the actions are consistent with how the term is defined.[/quote] What a load of crap. That is neither what they described. Nor is there any point in saying it if in fact it really meant what you contend. Your Death Panel case is a perfect example of the deceit. Sarah Palin coined this term. When asked to defend the accusation, her staff pointed specifically to sec 1233 of the House Resolution. That is the voluntary end of life counseling. Now you and conservatives like you want to backpedal and redefine the term to mean any refusal to pay for a treatment. It's horseshit because: 1. They clearly did not mean that, 2. A claim denial doesn't necessarily have anything do do with a "panel", 3. Every insurance plan on earth has services they will and will not cover. So if that's what death panel means, then everyone in America has a death panel hovering over them and therefore Obamacare has nothing whatsoever to do with their existence.[/quote] Palin sees the writing on the wall - that in order to keep Obamacare affordable, you need to convince the elderly they are not worth the extension of life. Emanuel said as much. What do you think will happen with the single-payer progressives really desire? I'm sure Ted Kennedy would get the same care he got, as would any other government elite, but not the people. That's how it works. Do you think Castro gets the same medical care as the Cuban people? How about the Prime Minister of Canada and his cabinet? Do you think Obama would get the same care under the single payer he wants for 'the people'? At least with private insurance companies, we have choices. In order to stay competitive, these companies need to pay for what they say they cover in their contracts, otherwise they will lose the business. [/quote]
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