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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]I don't think anyone stated that they deserved to be killed, but to make this an entire debate over freedom of speech is ridiculous when stated freedom of speech is not universal nor absolute[/quote] Let me refer you to a little passage young lady; We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. We in this country believe Freedom of Speech is universal and absolute. [b]And when I say ‘We’ I’m quite certain that includes occupants of the Left and the Right. If you disagree perhaps the USA is not the place for you??[/b] [/quote] +1[/quote] You two xenophobes, when these words were written, we had slaves, only people with property could vote, and women couldn't vote and only single women could hold property. And let's not forget the Indians. We essentially annihilated them. So were not exactly a shining beacon of "freedom."[/quote] OK, I hate slavery and what we did to the Indians too, but this is completely irrelevant. Re Jeff's point, freedom of speech includes the freedom to make yourself look like an idiot or hypocrite, without dying. And Jeff is free to point out thd hypocrisy. I don't really understand the point here, because it can't be that it's hopeless to have freedom of speech because some people are hypocrites.[/quote]
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