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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So what is the standard to measure "fluency" or "being fluent" against?  Seriously, I don't know.  What is the measurement against which one compares a child by 12th grade to see if they are "fluent"?  And is there really no data anywhere in the US that uses that standard, whatever it is, to test kids and see how fluent or not fluent they are?

I don't get the naysaying, but it will help a lot of the last two "doubtful of fluency" posters could say what their bar is, how they know whether a child is fluent or not.  Or what standards the schools hold to measure if a student is fluent or not.

How is a student measured as fluent?[/quote]

I think you'll find that bilingual parents will just test fluency themselves. I define it as effortlessly communicating and living your life (or part of your life) in the language. But if you want standardized tests, they exist. There are several competing ones for English. Must be some for the other major languages too.
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