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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele]Interesting that being a jerk is apparently worse than being corrupt. I guess we get the leaders we deserve.
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I'm the pp you are referencing. Cynicism is a corruption and it's profoundly damaging to our government and polity. I was ready to vote for Catania, jerk and all, but when he went negative like that it showed me that he's corrupt too, if more subtly so. So it's not just that he's a jerk. He's cynical. Much worse.

Not to mention, he has plenty of record to run on, why go there? Women are typically perceived as less qualified, even when they are better than their male competitors, and in this case, he had a legitimate claim to the argument that he's got the better track record. All he had to do was keep pounding that message. The comparison was obvious. There's nothing he gains by painting her as corrupt that he doesn't already get by highlighting the differences in their policy accomplishments.

And yes, being a male perceived as a jerk when running against a woman who is not so perceived is, generally speaking, not a winning position. Voters don't like to see men being mean to women. (Hillary might be the exception, but that's because we think she's strong enough to take it.)[/quote]

This is one of the strangest, most baffling arguments I encountered in ages. Apparently to you, everything is about process. Catania is being judged on his campaign tactics, not the realities on the ground. I assume that you are aware that when Catania questioned Bowser's record, he was accused of being racist and sexist? Did you see the debate in which Bowser objected to Catania saying that her school plan was a "platitude" (her school plan is "Alice Deal for All") and Bowser interrupted him and told Kojo Nnamdi, "you know why he is doing it, Kojo"? When questioned about her record by the Washington Post, she said such questions were asked because she was a young, black, woman.

During this campaign, Bowser lost her top strategist because of his involvement in an illegal shadow campaign in Philadelphia, she has stood by two supporters (one of whom is her East of the River coordinator) who are under federal investigation due to missing rent payments at Park Southern, and she has associated herself with a corrupt former city official who is involved with an illegal shadow campaign. Yet, to suggest that Bowser is linked to scandal is "cynical" and, moreover, that "cynicism" is worse than the actual corruption that is rife in the Bowser campaign.

I can understand objections to the campaign tactic. But, knowingly ignoring actual scandal because someone called it a "Scandal" makes know sense at all.

Can you confirm that your actual, real-life position is: Bowser's ties to multiple scandals is less important than Catania's campaign flyer?

I seriously have a hard time believing that an otherwise intelligent person would have that position. So, I just want to make sure I am not misunderstanding.

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Let me simplify: Bowser is part of a corrupt machine. Big news. Ha! I don't see the DC machine changing under anyone, except possibly Wells, but if it can be harnessed to do some good, we might get a decent chance at a reasonable city government. So, I guess that kind of corruption doesn't worry me that much because I kind of see it as impossible to change and maybe not necessarily a total impediment to effective governance. Is the assumption that clean government = good government really true?

Now, explain to me how an angry, cynical guy who is willing to engage in negative and discredited campaign tactics will be able to govern? He already alienated everyone and now he's lost the moral high ground so he can't even shame people into better behavior.

Maybe I should be voting for Carol.[/quote]

If he wins the election, he will obviously not have alienated everyone. He has always been aggressive, yet has managed to pass an amazing amount of legislation. If you want the machine to change, the obvious choice is someone who is not beholden to the machine. [/quote]

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