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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Who's fault is it that we think they're passing off their personal views as being shared by all Islam?[/quote]

I don't think anyone can be blamed for what you think other than you. If someone presents their view about Islam as being shared by all Islam, [b]I think an appropriate reply is "that may be your view, but certainly you agree many other professed Muslims believe differently...[/b]" But, when someone agrees that there is no "one" Islam, I think it is implied that they do not think their personal beliefs are shared by all Muslims.

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Do you think the 2nd Muslim poster, who apparently started many of the Islam threads, agrees that her views may be unrepresentative? Because I haven't heard her speak to this. 
 
Do you think everybody here, plus the new posters, remembers that exchange between you and Muslima?

Maybe you need a sticky at the top: "None of the Muslim posters speaks for all of Islam."

Meanwhile, we've been respectfully (most of us) challenging them all along, like you just suggested above, yet you've accused us of having agendas. It's not our fault non-Muslima PP puts out 50 dubious posts an hour. Did you bother to look at the thread about the standing of the turbans' deen vs. PP's personal take on things?

(Also, did you really just argue that a thread title of "What Does Islam Say About Concubines?" shouldn't be taken at face value? Especially if it didn't come from Muslima?)

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I think it's safe to say ISIS and many Wahabi Muslims would say my views are not reprsentative of them. I didn't think this needed to be stated. But I believe my views are representative of many Muslims outside Saudi Arabia and particuarly in the Americas. Muslims I know do not condone terrorism. Most Muslims I know want the Sharia in Muslim countries but admit that some laws need to be revised. The ones who had more harsh views moved back to their country and dislike Muslims living here. The point was, if the Sharia has some flaws, it does not follow that the whole of Islam is an uncivilized and barbaric faith, which is what those PP's were saying and which Muslima and I protested. Islam or the Sharia can not be judged against western justice systems because they are too different -- western justice systems places greater emphasis on individual rights and Islam places greater emphasis on the rights of society.

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