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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Check out the Episcopal church -- it's Catholicism without the crap.

You can find a "tolerant" Catholic church, but they still have to pay lip service to the very strict rules and beliefs (transubstantiation anyone?) that still apply.

And if you actually join you'll be paying into the legal defense funds for pedophile priests.

Also consider a unitarian church -- no smells and bells, no feigning belief,  but good people and good human values. [/quote]

Transubstantiation is THE central teaching of the Catholic church.

Really, if you don't believe in that you should not be a Catholic and should join a different faith tradition.

Even the liberal churches and clergy will tell you this.[/quote]
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get the message, Cafeteria Catholics?  Some people want you OUT[/b][/quote]

Please don't be so silly.

But really, being a Catholic who does not believe in the most central doctrine of the entire faith, does not make an iota of sense.

It would be like being a Democrat who is pro-life, against gay marriage and anti-black.  Or a Baptist who says that they just go for the comfort of fire and brimstone, but have no belief whatsoever in all that Jesus Christ as my Lord and personal Savior" business.  Or being Islamic and saying that you really believe Mohammed is not the prophet and just made all that stuff up.

Transubstantiation is unequivocally the single most important part of being Catholic.  Liberal Catholics, conservative Catholics, and every single stripe of Catholic in between know this.

You are not going to find a parish anywhere on this planet that gives a wink/nod to this belief.  You just aren't.[/quote]

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