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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous] Sure. Hamas does not recognize Israel. At all. As in 'kill and capture from sea to sea' Israel, knowing this, is still willing to let there be a Palestine, just not a sovereign one with such a murderous goal. Nor would I. If people wanted to kill me, I would do what I could to keep murderous tools from their hands[/quote] Can you please explain the difference between the outcome you describe -- and apparently support -- and Apartheid? [/quote] Can you tell me why this would be apartheid ? You like throwing that word around [/quote] Yes, for the sake of ease, let's borrow from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid Apartheid: an Afrikaans[1] word meaning "the state of being apart", literally "apart-hood")[2][3] was a system of racial segregation in South Africa enforced through legislation by the National Party (NP) governments, the ruling party from 1948 to 1994, under which the rights, associations and movements of the majority black inhabitants were curtailed and Afrikaner minority rule was maintained. ... By extension, the term is nowadays currently used for every kind of segregation, established by the state authority in a country, against the social and civil rights of a minority of citizens, due to ethnic prejudices. ... Non-white political representation was abolished in 1970, and starting in that year black people were deprived of their citizenship, legally becoming citizens of one of ten tribally based self-governing homelands called bantustans, four of which became nominally independent states So, what you propose is separating Jews and Palestinians, requiring the Palestinians to live in nominally independent Bantustans. I am not trying to score cheap debate points. If Israel granted the Palestinians independence, Israel could remain Jewish and democratic. If Israel granted the Palestinians full citizenship, it could remain democratic, though not primarily Jewish. But, anywhere in between is half-pregnant. You can't be half-pregnant. Please explain why the half-pregnant solution is not an Apartheid system? [/quote]
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