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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] What "misinformation?" The stats presented above pretty much make the point that USC is comparable to the big state schools except when it comes to tuition USC 46K Michigan 40K UCLA (or Cal) 36K Penn State 30K Wisconsin 26K USC looks much more like a more expensive state school than a SLAC. [/quote] Stats for USC are quite a bit better than for Penn State or Wisconsin. Importantly, the chances of a student getting financial assistance from USC are actually quite a bit higher than for an OOS student at any of those schools, so the net price often will be the same or lower. Also, remember that in some states, additional fees pad the cost of attendance (it is a way to keep "tuition" down, smh), so you have to look at the entire COA, not just tuition.[/quote] With the exception of US News (which favors expensive private schools) Wisconsin is generally ranked higher than USC, same with Michigan and sometimes PSU.[/quote] Ranked higher by whom? Based on what I have no dog in this fight as I have no ties to USC and wouldn't send my child there (nor would I send him to UCLA or Michigan--all too pricey for me). I just don't believe there is any real advantage to UCLA or Michigan over USC for an out-of-state student, and especially without knowing the specific financial package for the student in question. As for USNWR, I also have no particular reverence for them, but will note that there are 12 public universities along with USC that they rank at or higher than Wisconsin. I'm not casting aspersions on Wisconsin, it is a fine school. But on objective measures--test scores and graduation rates--it ranks decidedly lower. 20. Berkeley 23. Carnegie Mellon, UCLA, USC, UVA 24. Wake Forest 28. Tufts, Michigan 30. UNC 31. BC 32. Brandeis, W&M, NYU, Rochester 36. GA Tech 37. Case Western, Penn State 39. UC Davis, UCSD 41. BU, Lehigh, RPI, UCSB, Illinois, Wisconsin [/quote] Wisconsin is #30 in the World http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2013-14/world-ranking US News is a joke outside the US [/quote]
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