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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To all those who say full pay students get added admissions benefits I can only add our experience this year.  DD applied early admission (not ED) to 4 privates and 4 public colleges and we were not seeking any financial aid.  She was deferred at 3 privates and accepted early (with merit $$) at 3 publics.  So full pay was no added benefit. [/quote]

Most schools offer "needs blind" admission - though a ED application is a pretty strong signal that you won't need help.[/quote]

That's really not true at the schools that offer need based aid. They typically commit to meet financial need regardless of the application cycle. if you are talking about merit aid there might be something there but most of the very selective schools aren't big on merit aid. And if its a lower end school where your kid is at the top of the heap (and therefore in merit aid range) then you probably don't need to apply ED.

The thing to keep in mind on schools with high ED numbers is that the RD admission pool ends up being VERY competitive, which is why the admission rate differences in the OP are important to keep in mind. My DC was at or above the top quartile for scores and GPA at several competitive schools but was denied or waitlisted because the RD pool is so much more competitive. The SAT range for accepted students some goes WAY up when you take out the ED applicants.[/quote]

Which of the most selective schools offer ED?  Vanderbilt does and they are very upfront about their needs blind admission process.  I think the best schools are moving away form ED.  [/quote]

There is a list out there somewhere but typically the EA schools are state schools like UVA, Michigan, UNC-CH. A few of the Ivies do SCEA - like HYP, but others do ED like Dartmouth, Columbia, Penn. A couple of others do SCEA - like Stanford, Georgetown and Boston College. Almost all the SLACs do ED, as do most of the other selective private schools. I think some give preference for SCEA but others (e.g., Georgetown) say they do not.

There was talk of a move away from ED a few years ago but if anything it's increased.

The way a lot of schools are getting around the need blind thing, including Vandy, is the waitlist. Admission from the waitlist is not need blind, and Vandy says that 10% of its entering class comes from the waitlist.[/quote]

I’m sensing a lot of suspicion on this thread that schools are out to mislead applicants and manipulate data to create misimpressions.  I can’t imagine why anyone would even consider sending their DC to such a school.  If you can’t trust a school to level with you, why would you be interested in that school?[/quote]

You are crazy if you don't think they are all doing this.[/quote]

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