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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Mature kid would find a way to deal with the situation and not quit. if you don't like couple of kids in the club because they appear to be immature, you don't just "pick up the ball and go home". That is not showing maturity. Quitting and forming another club is not learning how to deal with a problem and it sounds like whining. I don't think this should be such a difficult concept to grasp.[/quote]

Clearly you're wedded to the race to nowhere, so trying to explain common sense to you is a waste of time.  But I'll try:

Mature high school kids who are into math and winning national competitions have a justifiably low tolerance for babies ( a few of whom seemed to be there because their parents thought it would look good on their TJ app.) distracting them from trying to learn.  My son was not alone in quitting and in fact went with a group to the director to express their concerns. She was reluctant to confront the younger kid's parents. Fortunately, another established club, with much higher standards of admission was only to happy to recruit them.

I supported him in this situation because a) he's got a good track record of solving his own problems and running his own life, and b) I thought he and his friends done their best to endure an situation that was no longer enjoyable or productive and was not going to change because the parent managing it had no control.   Immaturity would have been sitting around and complaining about it, which they did not do.  They got on with their lives.  [/quote]

As a parent of older kids, I agree that [b]it is not fair to ask high school kids to open their high school club to sixth graders[/b]. These age groups are at very different places in their lives. It may have been appropriate to ask the high schoolers to work with or present a program for the sixth graders. [b]No matter how advanced in math a sixth grader may be, they are simply not at the emotional or social maturity level of a high school student.[/b] I think your son and his friends handled things well; they did not whine and complain, they took action and improved the situation for themselves without taking anything away from the younger children. Maybe the high school kids could be given some type of leadership positions in the other club which now can focus more on the needs of the younger children?
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If the above is true:
No high school students should be allowed to dual enroll at Universities.
No middle school students should be allowed to go to high school for Geometry, Algebra II etc. courses.
No 6th graders should be allowed to go to middle school to take Algebra I courses.

The Fairfax Math Circle should prohibit anyone but high school students to join the club.
TJ Varsity Math Club should not allow any middle school students to come and practice with them on and on and on. I guess you are in agreement with all of the above as well.[/quote]

The first three above are academic courses, not social clubs. I believe Fairfax Math Circle is not a high school sponsored club and is meant for a variety of ages. The TJ Varsity Math Club may choose to invite younger children if they wish, but they should not be [i]required[/i] to be open to middle schoolers. High school clubs partially serve as a social outlet for high school aged students, whatever the purpose of the club may be. A club sponsored by a high school should be first and foremost for the students of that high school.  Younger children typically do not participate on high school sponsored sports teams, no matter how advanced they are. The middle school or elementary school can sponsor a club and maybe invite the high schoolers to come and work with them, but the high schoolers deserve to have a place where they can meet with other kids their own age. These are extracurricular clubs we're talking about here, not for-credit coursework.[/quote]

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